Question Tips and opinions for my future Gaming PC

[Kuraiko]

Hello everyone! Hope you're having/had an awesome weekend

I was hoping to gather some feedback and maybe tips for improvements on a Gaming PC I want to build.
My current one is about 8(!) years old, and while it's still quite capable, the latest games have been catching up to it over the past few months. Although, anything more than "High" settings has been out of the question for way longer.

I hope you don't mind me linking to a Google Sheet?
The sheet has two pages, one for what I've planned to get for my new PC, the other listing my current hardware for comparison.
I've included links to Mindfactory and Amazon to quickly access details. Those aren't affiliate links, it's just where I mainly buy my hardware.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJ0oBwQFxpWtRujoB9-sH3ujH-50Ooo99Q4jKSmFWeI/edit?usp=sharing

My thinking process on some of the parts:

• Regarding the price of all the parts: I've set myself a budget of €3,000,-. A bit more wouldn't hurt much if it would improve compatibility or performance, for example.
• I'm especially concerned about the cooling! Honestly, I've picked the cooler because of the design. Of course, I've found it looking for a capable cooler for the Ryzen 9 7950, but is air cooling really enough if I'm going to stress this CPU with high-end games? Should I instead think about water cooling and if yes, what are your recommendations?
• The 64 GB RAM are so to make this build future-proof. I might be getting into streaming as well and since it's within my budget I thought the extra RAM wouldn't hurt.
• I've calculated the power consumption with be quite's PSU calculator and even when overclocking and adding CPU water cooling the power consumption would be just under 750 W. But I still thought a 1000 W PSU was the safer option.
• Then there's the chassis. I'd love if someone could confirm whether all the hardware would fit in there. I believe I read everything right, but you know it goes: two pairs of eyes see better than one

Looking forward to your thoughts and suggestions

 

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[Lutfij]

OP, you should follow the stylization of the link posted by my colleague above ^.

PCPartPicker takes out most of the guess work, well, it helps narrow down suggestions faster.

 

[King Dranzer]

Hello everyone! Hope you're having/had an awesome weekend

I was hoping to gather some feedback and maybe tips for improvements on a Gaming PC I want to build.
My current one is about 8(!) years old, and while it's still quite capable, the latest games have been catching up to it over the past few months. Although, anything more than "High" settings has been out of the question for way longer.

I hope you don't mind me linking to a Google Sheet?
The sheet has two pages, one for what I've planned to get for my new PC, the other listing my current hardware for comparison.
I've included links to Mindfactory and Amazon to quickly access details. Those aren't affiliate links, it's just where I mainly buy my hardware.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aJ0oBwQFxpWtRujoB9-sH3ujH-50Ooo99Q4jKSmFWeI/edit?usp=sharing

My thinking process on some of the parts:

• Regarding the price of all the parts: I've set myself a budget of €3,000,-. A bit more wouldn't hurt much if it would improve compatibility or performance, for example.
• I'm especially concerned about the cooling! Honestly, I've picked the cooler because of the design. Of course, I've found it looking for a capable cooler for the Ryzen 9 7950, but is air cooling really enough if I'm going to stress this CPU with high-end games? Should I instead think about water cooling and if yes, what are your recommendations?
• The 64 GB RAM are so to make this build future-proof. I might be getting into streaming as well and since it's within my budget I thought the extra RAM wouldn't hurt.
• I've calculated the power consumption with be quite's PSU calculator and even when overclocking and adding CPU water cooling the power consumption would be just under 750 W. But I still thought a 1000 W PSU was the safer option.
• Then there's the chassis. I'd love if someone could confirm whether all the hardware would fit in there. I believe I read everything right, but you know it goes: two pairs of eyes see better than one

Looking forward to your thoughts and suggestions

Also PC Part-picker got support for different European countries for pricing and listings from their local dealers. So you can pick your country and make the list according to local prices.

 

[Flayed]

Something like this maybe:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (€344.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool ASSASSIN IV 79.1 CFM CPU Cooler (€99.41 @ Galaxus)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€294.00 @ Alternate)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€238.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€98.90 @ Alza)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€310.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€895.99 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: NZXT C1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€186.89 @ Alternate)
Total: €2468.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-24 17:05 CET+0100

 

[Kuraiko]

OP, you should follow the stylization of the link posted by my colleague above ^.

PCPartPicker takes out most of the guess work, well, it helps narrow down suggestions faster.

I'm sorry for posting in the wrong section. I did read the forum rules, but I did not think there was a post pointing out where to post new builds specifically. I'll remember to pay closer attention to sticky posts in the future!

Also didn't know something like PC Part Picker existed Thank you for pointing out the tool, and thank you Flayed for going through the effort of putting together the list already!

Why the different motherboard, tinier CPU and bigger PSU, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Kuraiko]

Alright, I've created the list of parts with the hardware I'd like using PC Part Picker.

• I'm still concerned about the cooling. Is air cooling enough to encounter the CPU's heat generation when running games at max settings?
• Thanks to the tool, I've found that the chassis might or might not be too small for the modular connectors of the PSU. Thus, I exchanged that for the XL variant to make sure I'll have no trouble with the cabling.

What are your thoughts?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor (€590.89 @ Galaxus)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool ASSASSIN IV 79.1 CFM CPU Cooler (€99.41 @ Galaxus)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650E AORUS MASTER ATX AM5 Motherboard (€397.90 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5200 CL36 Memory (€208.90 @ Galaxus)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€115.91 @ Alza)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€356.89 @ Galaxus)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€895.99 @ Alternate)
Case: Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case (€184.67 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 12 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€186.89 @ Computeruniverse)
Total: €3037.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-24 20:18 CET+0100

 

[Why_Me]

Alright, I've created the list of parts with the hardware I'd like using PC Part Picker.

• I'm still concerned about the cooling. Is air cooling enough to encounter the CPU's heat generation when running games at max settings?
• Thanks to the tool, I've found that the chassis might or might not be too small for the modular connectors of the PSU. Thus, I exchanged that for the XL variant to make sure I'll have no trouble with the cabling.

What are your thoughts?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor (€590.89 @ Galaxus)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool ASSASSIN IV 79.1 CFM CPU Cooler (€99.41 @ Galaxus)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650E AORUS MASTER ATX AM5 Motherboard (€397.90 @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5200 CL36 Memory (€208.90 @ Galaxus)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€115.91 @ Alza)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro w/Heatsink 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€356.89 @ Galaxus)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€895.99 @ Alternate)
Case: Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case (€184.67 @ notebooksbilliger.dW

What's your resolution?

 

[Kuraiko]

What's your resolution?

Right now I have an old 4k monitor with 144 Hz. 3840 × 2160 – 16:9, to be precise.
Not that I could really run most games supporting this resolution in 4k at the moment.

Do you think 4k might become an issue with the hardware I picked?
I would like to be able to run games at this resolution, I think.

 

[King Dranzer]

Right now I have an old 4k monitor with 144 Hz. 3840 × 2160 – 16:9, to be precise.
Not that I could really run most games supporting this resolution in 4k at the moment.

Do you think 4k might become an issue with the hardware I picked?
I would like to be able to run games at this resolution, I think.

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (€344.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€63.46 @ Galaxus)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€189.06 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€192.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€164.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus TUF Gaming OG OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (€1839.00 @ Computeruniverse)
Case: Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case (€185.48 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€143.89 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Total: €3121.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-24 22:28 CET+0100

For 4K resolution this is what I would consider for around that price point.

But if possible I highly recommend to hold off on the build for now. As RTX 5090 is just few months away now and is set to get a minimum 70% performance uplift over RTX 4090 which is crazy. From your description it seems like you don't upgrade hardware ever generation. So it be better if you can wait and purchase RTX 5090. As that will actually get you true 4K gaming experience over a much longer period of time. Till then please keep adding to the budget as much as possible so that you can get no compromise high end build.

 

[CelicaGT]

I'm sorry for posting in the wrong section. I did read the forum rules, but I did not think there was a post pointing out where to post new builds specifically. I'll remember to pay closer attention to sticky posts in the future!

Also didn't know something like PC Part Picker existed Thank you for pointing out the tool, and thank you Flayed for going through the effort of putting together the list already!

Why the different motherboard, tinier CPU and bigger PSU, if you don't mind me asking?

The 7800X3D is the de-facto best bang for the buck AMD gaming CPU, and generally the most performant. Don't fall for the bigger-number-better fallacy. Unless you need 16 cores for content creation or rendering avoid the R9/i9 versions. That money is better spent elsewhere.

 

[Why_Me]

Right now I have an old 4k monitor with 144 Hz. 3840 × 2160 – 16:9, to be precise.
Not that I could really run most games supporting this resolution in 4k at the moment.

Do you think 4k might become an issue with the hardware I picked?
I would like to be able to run games at this resolution, I think.

The only true 4K gpu imo is the RTX 4090. The issue with that is you would have make some changes in order to fit that gpu in your budget. Something like this for example.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (€400.99 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€85.94 @ TopAchat)
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard (€186.14 @ TopAchat)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€124.99 @ Amazon France)
Storage: *Lexar NM790 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€150.69 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (€1775.94 @ TopAchat)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (€118.27 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€149.90 @ Amazon France)
Total: €2992.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 00:47 CET+0100

A better look at those components.

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-plus/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...formance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16124.shtml

https://www.corsair.com/fr/fr/p/mem...cl30-amd-expo-memory-black-cmk32gx5m2b6000z30

https://www.lexar.com/product/lexar-nm790-m-2-2280-pcie-gen-4x4-nvme-ssd/

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4090WF3V2-24GD-rev-10-11#kf

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020264-na

LANCOOL 216

• Mid-tower chassis configurable for air cooling and water cooling • Airflow optimized front, top and PSU shroud side mesh panels • Equipped with 2 x front 160 PWM fans (ARGB or non-RGB) and 1 x rear 140mm PWM fan • Supports 360 radiator at the top, front and a maximum of 10 fans • Includes rear...

lian-li.com

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (€400.99 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (€85.94 @ TopAchat)
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard (€186.14 @ TopAchat)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€124.99 @ Amazon France)
Storage: *Lexar NM790 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€150.69 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card (€924.98 @ Amazon France)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (€118.27 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€103.50 @ Amazon France)
Monitor: *LG UltraGear 27GR75Q-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor (€239.01 @ Amazon France)
Total: €2334.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-25 00:56 CET+0100

 

[Kuraiko]

Thank you all for your tips and suggestions

• You all seem to pretty much agree on the CPU, Cooler and Motherboard.
• I guess if I can play games with the Ryzen 7 just as good as with the Ryzen 9, it makes more sense to get the 7.
• Air cooling seems to be much agreed on, too. I guess between that and water cooling, it comes down to the price one's ready to pay?
• I compared the two motherboards and the Aorus Master almost seems like a rip-off with its pricing, now. The TUF Gaming 650 looks like the better choice indeed.
• Less but faster RAM seems like a good idea, too.
• I will definitely stick to the storage I picked. I want a separate SSD for the system so I can easily reinstall it if need be without the need of creating partitions to do the same.

All in all, I believe I will really wait a bit longer and patiently wait for the next gen graphics cards.
It's true that upgrading isn't my style at all. I like having a PC for as long as it lasts in terms of the tasks I ask of it. That being said: Your suggestions have been very valuable in that they got me thinking about different options. Thank you all again

 

[Flayed]

I compared the two motherboards and the Aorus Master almost seems like a rip-off with its pricing, now. The TUF Gaming 650 looks like the better choice indeed.

It does look like a decent motherboard for the price. The only downside I can see is a lack of optical audio port which I would use to connect to my stereo. There don't seem to be many AM5 motherboards with this feature. I think the cheapest Asus one is ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI which is quite a bit more expensive.

I don't know if this is something you would use or value but I thought I would mention it.

 

[Kuraiko]

It does look like a decent motherboard for the price. The only downside I can see is a lack of optical audio port which I would use to connect to my stereo. There don't seem to be many AM5 motherboards with this feature. I think the cheapest Asus one is ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI which is quite a bit more expensive.

I don't know if this is something you would use or value but I thought I would mention it.

Thanks for mentioning it! I'll only need the standard audio jacks for my Sennheiser Game 1, though. And I could still add the sound card of my current PC if I ever require an optical audio port.