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Three people suspected of passing 'innovative technologies for military use' to China have been arrested in Germany

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[Crazyy8]

Not really into politics, but I know that China of all countries should not being trying to spy on countries like the USA, UK, Germany, etc in the current political environment.

 

[pug_s]

Not really into politics, but I know that China of all countries should not being trying to spy on countries like the USA, UK, Germany, etc in the current political environment.

Most developing or developed countries has a intelligence agency and they are spying on each other, including US, UK and China. Even the CIA admits that the intelligence contacts in China are being rounded up and jailed.

 

[gdmaclew]

So the western countries shouldn't be spying on China? Give me a break. Most developing or developed countries has a intelligence agency, including US, UK and China. An example of the case in 2019 involving the Huawei CFO and the 2 Canadians who was jailed proved that the 2 Michaels from Canada are actually spies in China.

And how does it prove that?
China did it as a retaliation for the detention of Meng Wanzhou, nothing more.

 

[pug_s]

And how does it prove that?
China did it as a retaliation for the detention of Meng Wanzhou, nothing more.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-ready-pay-settlements-two-men-imprisoned-china-2018-report-2023-12-26/

Perhaps it is politically motiviated because Huawei is a nationally important company in China. But in this article, it says "The Canadian government has offered around C$3 million ($2.27 million) to each but Spavor's lawyer sought C$10.5 million, alleging gross negligence on how Ottawa handled security reporting operations in China, the report added."

Security Reporting operations in China = Spying.

 

[bit_user]

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-ready-pay-settlements-two-men-imprisoned-china-2018-report-2023-12-26/

Perhaps it is politically motiviated because Huawei is a nationally important company in China. But in this article, it says "The Canadian government has offered around C$3 million ($2.27 million) to each but Spavor's lawyer sought C$10.5 million, alleging gross negligence on how Ottawa handled security reporting operations in China, the report added."

Security Reporting operations in China = Spying.

That seems quite a reach, and a selective read of what the article contains. It also says:

Canada and the United States say that the detention of the Canadian men - dubbed by Canadian media as "the two Michaels" in a case followed closely - was illegal and arbitrary, an accusation Beijing denies.
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Unless you can find compelling evidence that spying is being called "security reporting operations", I would suggest what it actually meant is that the Canadian government failed to warn its citizens that China is an unsafe place for them to visit and conduct business. I don't know about Canada, but the US Government maintains advisory warnings to its citizens on what countries & regions they should avoid. Perhaps the basis of the settlement is simply that the Canadian government failed to issue any sort of warning or advisory that would've allowed the detained individuals to adjust their plans and thereby avoid being detained.

There's also the common sense aspect of what you're saying. If they were spies, don't you think the Canadian government would already have a mechanism in place to support the families of its detained operatives? The very fact that this lawsuit is public should tell us they weren't spies.

Either way, you can't rest such an allegation on an ambiguous phrase cherry-picked from one article. Such a claim would require more definitive evidence.

 

[pug_s]

That seems quite a reach, and a selective read of what the article contains. It also says:

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Canada and the United States say that the detention of the Canadian men - dubbed by Canadian media as "the two Michaels" in a case followed closely - was illegal and arbitrary, an accusation Beijing denies.​

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Unless you can find compelling evidence that spying is being called "security reporting operations", I would suggest what it actually meant is that the Canadian government failed to warn its citizens that China is an unsafe place for them to visit and conduct business. I don't know about Canada, but the US Government maintains advisory warnings to its citizens on what countries & regions they should avoid. Perhaps the basis of the settlement is simply that the Canadian government failed to issue any sort of warning or advisory that would've allowed the detained individuals to adjust their plans and thereby avoid being detained.

There's also the common sense aspect of what you're saying. If they were spies, don't you think the Canadian government would already have a mechanism in place to support the families of its detained operatives? The very fact that this lawsuit is public should tell us they weren't spies.

Either way, you can't rest such an allegation on an ambiguous phrase cherry-picked from one article. Such a claim would require more definitive evidence.

Lol, you seriously drink the western propaganda kool aid if you believe US and Canadian says that their detainment is illegal and arbitrary.

Canada's Global Security Reporting Program (GSRP) makes claims that these people are not spies is just hillarious because this organization gathers information for CSIS and Five eyes. How do they know that this kind of information that they are gathering is not supposed to be public? if these 2 Michaels are so innocent, why does Ottawa go out of their way to compensate these 2 individuals millions of Canadian dollars to settle their lawsuit?