News Chinese may be evading Nvidia GPU sanctions with Dell, Gigabyte, and Supermicro servers: Report

[Admin]

Investigations have provided evidence that China-based organizations could still get their hands on sanctioned Nvidia GPUs as recently as Feb 28, 2024. However, it is debatable whether the GPUs were in China before the extended sanctions were imposed last November.

Chinese may be evading Nvidia GPU sanctions with Dell, Gigabyte, and Supermicro servers: Report : Read more

 

[pug_s]

If anybody learn from Russia about sanctions is that they don't work. Russia can get western items from Coca Cola to iphones. For these commodity items , 3rd party brokers can simply buy them and ship it to places where it is illegal to sell. I'm pretty sure that there's some 3rd party broker who ships this stuff to Chinese companies as well.

 

[pointa2b]

Its simple supply and demand. Look at everything else in the world thats regulated/restricted that gets nonetheless traded because of the financial incentive.

 

[nookoool]

Any new info with Huawei Ascend? It seems switching to domestic supplies would be the long term goal. Huawei is supposely shipping 60 million 7nm kirin devices so capability is there unless it is much more difficult to print out a larger die gpu.

 

[hotaru251]

sanctions is that they don't work.

sanctions DO work.

Sanctions make it mroe difficult to get stuff while it doesn't negate that it makes it mroe costly & take longer thus impacting those sanctioned.

People have a poor understanding of what sanctions are meant to do in reality.
literally everyone in world knows if someone wnats soemthing nothing in world can stop that.

 

[scottslayer]

They are absolutely avoiding the sanctions weekly, all you have to do is check the tech sections of Chinese social media...this is not some form of guesswork when people like warehouse owners show off their shipments.

 

[williamcll]

sanctions DO work.

Sanctions make it mroe difficult to get stuff while it doesn't negate that it makes it mroe costly & take longer thus impacting those sanctioned.

People have a poor understanding of what sanctions are meant to do in reality.
literally everyone in world knows if someone wnats soemthing nothing in world can stop that.

The only thing sanctions work on is that it hurts consumers.

 

[hotaru251]

The only thing sanctions work on is that it hurts consumers.

yes but no.
Most sanctioned things have very little impact on consumers. (they are generally high enough importance the casual person has no need for it)
And long term they can have great benefit (as its motivation to try and do it yourself which is good as more options in world is better for everyone).

China isn't a dumb nation..they can (not easily as its hard to do for anyone) hopefully pull out and in yrs catch up w/ their own stuff that even if not on par w/ rest is close enough.