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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Thinking for yourself and checking on your own wins every time: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/article/intel_microcode_0x129_update_increases_the_voltage_and_cpu_temperature_on_my_i5_13600k I don't cross 1.34v and score 29,500 in r23 with my long standing undervolt. Intel pushing his 13600k to...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Got it, thanks! But.. I guess still no updating the original post?
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    So this is the really the shortest version of the correct answer, but on mobile or desktop through different browsers, there's no way to select the answer or even edit the original post, I can only edit comments after.. am I missing something? It never used to be this way.
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Hmm. Idk about Jay, but that's a positive for him. Most of these guys are bought *cough*Linus.. i don't trust anything anymore, one bitten twice shy, 10 times bitten.. It's odd that msi would pump this out so fast when they are the only ones who made undervolting easy, ergo the fewest...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Exactly. The engineers are certainly not in charge.
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Zoiks, I was just reading about the idle/low use voltages being the issue. I don't play Minecraft, any other ways to test? I play a crysis wars mod from many years ago, I'll check that next time. I also read turning off the E cores might be wise, and I feel like I always meant to do that...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Honestly, neither. The engineers missed the huge problem, can't fix it properly, and most importantly they don't contradict the company. So you're not even trusting the engineers, you're trusting what the corporation is telling/selling you, which is always a terrible idea. They should have...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Did you read through the comments in your link? Those relating their experience who are actually knowledgeable say it's not really a fix. And that the Intel diagnostic tool is total garbage, which I found out myself in 2014. We're talking Samsung style results. I had a high voltage chip...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    That's the debate. I have literally zero instability. The chip is undervolted since day 1, no more throttling, r23 barely hits 90C. Not to mention that their "fix" causes temperature, throttling and performance issues. I'm thinking I'll keep trusting myself over sketchy Intel, and if the...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Is it bad that I can't remember if it's been one year or two? But they haven't been out long enough to reach the end of normal warranty period, much less the extended..
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    It looks like besides some odd voltage readings (VIN7) which should be just nonsense, the CPU vid seems to be pulling around 1.28v under load, with spikes of 1.33v according to the max reading - but I'm not really seeing it in the graph. This is a bit higher than I usually like, but I'm...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    And I never have lol, well maybe before I learned that especially with BIOS, if it ain't broke don't fix it. The problem here is that it might be broke and getting more broke in secret. Stupid intel and asus, they've been overvolting their defaults for over 10 years - that I'm aware of...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    Thanks, that was my guess. I should point out that I didn't manually undervolt it. MSI has "Lite Load" profiles which have their set of researched value combinations for undervolting, so there may be some voltages left unaddressed, I'm not super sure - I really should check. My assumption is...
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    Question Good or bad to update mobo bios for stable 13700?

    13700k on msi 690, Nh-D15, 32gb 6400/C32, 3080 ftw3, 850w ti I forgot all about the intel 13/14 gen issues, as mine doesn't crash. I just came across it again (too busy for too long, but that's done tg). I see everyone screaming to update your bios right away! Few go on to mention that you...