Question £1000 Tower, No GPU required

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Good evening,

This tallies up with another thread I have with a poorly 3 year old PC and the only thing i THINK I can rule out is the GPU which is only a month old luckily and can easily be salvaged to re-home.

With an emphasis on a larger case and spacious size MOBO to work around (currently have a micro i got by mistake and it's the bane of my existence) would it be feasible to knock up a decent modern gaming PC without GPU for about £1000? No peripherals needed, just a working tower minus the GPU. Preferably would like a 2TB storage drive on top of the main Boot but that's about the only caveat.

Thank you in advance.
 

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Something like this:

You can play with the storage config to your liking. Maybe go for a liquid CPU cooler if you want. I would just go with a single faster 2TB drive and add additional storage later.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (£260.62 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler (£74.50 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£179.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£129.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£77.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£169.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£88.48 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1070.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-10 19:29 BST+0100
 

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Thank you very much for that. I Just have a quick question,

I'm CONSIDERING getting a pre-built as I have always been against in the past and always built them myself but when GPUs were not available to buy solo last year I had to go to Scan for a full tower they only charged about 2% assembly and saved me an afternoon so I took the easy option and didn't really get a bad deal on the mark up.

What are your opinions on https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-gamer-3070-intel if I just removed the GPU/OS and maybe opted for a chunkier case? Would that still be a good spend of £1000? Be as honest as needed.
 

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They are charging you a £200 premium. These are the exact parts if you remove the storage and GPU.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (£319.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler (£62.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£143.10 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (£125.03 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£77.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £809.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-10 19:51 BST+0100


I applaud them for the choices they made in a pre-built. CPU cooler and memory are good choices (though they didn't list the latency, probably 18)
TX750M is a good PSU, just not fully modular which means you are stuck with the main cables. (If you wanted to use custom colored cables later)

B660 chipset, ASUS Prime is not a bad board, but it is basically their middle of the road series.
12700F is only a little slower than a 12700K, an improvement over my 12600K choice. Though you could also make that choice in the above build. Gain 2 P-cores that way.

Storage is lacking, a DRAMless SSD, which I suppose you could swap out, but they might charge you for it.
 

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A little different:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (£319.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler (£62.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£179.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£123.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£234.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£95.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£88.48 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1105.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-10 19:56 BST+0100
 

Why_Me

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https://www.cclonline.com/lancool-ii-mesh-performance-k-lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-performance-mid-tower-gaming-case-black/
Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance Mid Tower Case £91.30

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B097DWPF7W
Corsair RM (2021) 850W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply £88.48

https://www.technextday.co.uk/product/gigabyte-z690-gaming-x-ddr4-intel-socket-1700-ddr4-atx-motherboard
Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X DDR4 £184.74

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/components/processors/intel/socket-1700-alder-lake/intel-core-i7-12700f-twelve-core-2-10ghz-cpu-alder-lake-processor-lga-1700.html
Intel Core i7-12700F £311.99

https://computerorbit.com/products/deepcool-ak620-high-performance-cooler
DeepCool AK620 CPU Cooler £48.50

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B097RJSVGX
Kingston FURY Renegade DDR4 3600MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL16 £123.71

O/S SSD

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086BGWNY8
Crucial P2 500GB M.2 NVMe PCIe Internal SSD £42.48

Storage SSD

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08GVDNTGJ
Crucial P2 2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Internal SSD £134.99

Total: £1026.19 inc VAT

DDR5 version of that build.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-mag-z690-torpedo-intel-z690-s-1700-ddr5-sata3-pcie-50-4x-m2-25gbe-usb-32-gen2x2-atx
MSI MAG Z690 TORPEDO £209.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-Z690-TORPEDO

Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 5200MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL40 £183.77

Total: £1111.50 inc VAT

A better look at those components.


https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-GAMING-X-DDR4-rev-10#kf

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review

https://global.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler/2021/13067.shtml

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134591/intel-core-i712700-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

i7 12700 / 12700F gaming benchmarks.

 
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Thank you both for your feedback. Tried to combine elements of both suggestions and came up with the below,

Can you sign off on the compatibility please and I've dropped a clanger, please let me know?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (£311.99 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.89 @ Technextday)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£179.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-4800 CL38 Memory (£170.44 @ More Computers)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£67.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card (£779.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£95.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1918.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-10 23:32 BST+0100
 

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Thank you both for your feedback. Tried to combine elements of both suggestions and came up with the below,

Can you sign off on the compatibility please and I've dropped a clanger, please let me know?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (£311.99 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.89 @ Technextday)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£179.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-4800 CL38 Memory (£170.44 @ More Computers)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£67.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card (£779.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£95.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1918.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-10 23:32 BST+0100
If you run dual M.2 SSD's then you want a board with two M.2 heat sinks such as that MSI board I posted up above. When those M.2 SSD's get too warm they throttle down hence the M.2 heat sinks. btw a 500GB SSD is more than enough for a boot drive.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-Z690-TORPEDO
 
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If you run dual M.2 SSD's then you want a board with two M.2 heat sinks such as that MSI board I posted up above. When those M.2 SSD's get too warm they throttle down hence the M.2 heat sinks. btw a 500GB SSD is more than enough for a boot drive.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-Z690-TORPEDO
The reason for wanting 1TB boot is because I like to keep my game installations on the boot drive and keep storage for strictly that. Storage of media. With the size of games increasing I sometimes find Im uninstalling lesser played stuff to replace with current tastes. For sake of £30 i thought why not.

If I swapped out the mobo in my list for the Torpedo does it look ok?

Ty
 
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The reason for wanting 1TB boot is because I like to keep my game installations on the boot drive and keep storage for strictly that. Storage of media. With the size of games increasing I sometimes find Im uninstalling lesser played stuff to replace with current tastes. For sake of £30 i thought why not.

If I swapped out the mobo in my list for the Torpedo does it look ok?

Ty
I keep waiting for the US to get the Torpedo. It's one of the reasons I enjoy doing UK builds more than US builds .. you people have more choices of PC hardware than we have in the states.
 

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Settled on this. Will probably rescue the M2 and CPU from the old tower and sell them. Scrap the rest.

Would any additional fans be a good idea or is this case and cooler combo more than sufficient? My GPU is a 3 fan variant also.

Thanks all for your help.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor (£311.99 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.89 @ Technextday)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£184.74 @ Technextday)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£123.71 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£67.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card (£691.95 @ AWD-IT)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£95.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £1788.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-11 08:51 BST+0100
 
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