[SOLVED] £2500 gaming build UK

[AlfieBJ]

I've offered to put together a build for a friend who was planning on buying a £2500 pre-built system:
( https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-vortex-xt-gaming-pc-intel-core-i9-rtx-2080-ti-2-tb-hdd-1-tb-ssd-10205560-pdt.html )

I've built 3 machines in the past, but all of them have been low-end £400-£600, so help is greatly appriceated.

He wants the system to game, no specific games mentioned, he just wants to be able to run anything on max if possible. He's also said he will eventually have 3 monitors.

This is the build I've come up with:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (£528.78 @ Technextday)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£34.96 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£199.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£144.35 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£102.99 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS OC Video Card (£1110.00 @ Currys PC World)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (£146.07 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£125.00 @ Currys PC World)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£100.24 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £2492.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-20 13:21 BST+0100

Any advice will help greatly, especially regarding cooling, because I've never used anything but stock cooling before, and so dont understand much regarding it.

Thanks all!

 

[Flayed]

Looks ok although I would pick a newer case that one came out in 2013
Oh you will need a much better cooling solution for the CPU

 

[AlfieBJ]

Looks ok although I would pick a newer case that one came out in 2013

Thanks, would you have any suggestions on a case? Would a system with such a big card need a case with especially good airflow?
Any further help would be great

 

[Flayed]

Honestly though if he buys a prebuilt when it goes wrong Curry's can deal with it if you build him one you will be on the hook for it lol

 

[Koekieezz]

i tried to edit the build with ryzen instead, try take a look. More better performance 😀

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | £381.05 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler | £79.99 @ CCL Computers
Thermal Compound | ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition 4 g Thermal Paste | £4.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | £219.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | £168.99 @ Ebuyer
Storage | Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | £102.99 @ Box Limited
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | £1110.00 @ Currys PC World
Case | Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case | £146.07 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | £125.00 @ Currys PC World
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | £100.24 @ CCL Computers
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £2439.31
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-20 13:48 BST+0100 |

 

[Flayed]

Thanks, would you have any suggestions on a case? Would a system with such a big card need a case with especially good airflow?
Any further help would be great

Hard to pick out cases for people. If I was spending £150 on a case I'd go for Fractal Design Define 7 but there are lots of good cases out there

 

[AlfieBJ]

i tried to edit the build with ryzen instead, try take a look. More better performance 😀

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | £381.05 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler | £79.99 @ CCL Computers
Thermal Compound | ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition 4 g Thermal Paste | £4.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | £219.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory | £168.99 @ Ebuyer
Storage | Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | £102.99 @ Box Limited
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | £1110.00 @ Currys PC World
Case | Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case | £146.07 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | £125.00 @ Currys PC World
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | £100.24 @ CCL Computers
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | £2439.31
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-20 13:48 BST+0100 |

Thanks for your reply, I was initally looking at a ryzen build, as they are what I'm used to, but after looking at the benchmarks it seems the i9-10900k outperformed the ryzen on all bases. Is there a reason I'm missing for why a ryzen would be advisable? Thanks.

 

[Zerk2012]

I've offered to put together a build for a friend who was planning on buying a £2500 pre-built system:
( https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-vortex-xt-gaming-pc-intel-core-i9-rtx-2080-ti-2-tb-hdd-1-tb-ssd-10205560-pdt.html )

I've built 3 machines in the past, but all of them have been low-end £400-£600, so help is greatly appriceated.

He wants the system to game, no specific games mentioned, he just wants to be able to run anything on max if possible. He's also said he will eventually have 3 monitors.

This is the build I've come up with:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (£528.78 @ Technextday)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£34.96 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£199.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£144.35 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£102.99 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS OC Video Card (£1110.00 @ Currys PC World)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (£146.07 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£125.00 @ Currys PC World)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£100.24 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £2492.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-20 13:21 BST+0100

Any advice will help greatly, especially regarding cooling, because I've never used anything but stock cooling before, and so dont understand much regarding it.

Thanks all!

Actually that cooler has 0 chance of cooling that processor under load it's in the 240 watt area. Also the WD blue drive is just a regular SSD in M.2 for factor it's not a NVME drive.

 

[AlfieBJ]

Hard to pick out cases for people. If I was spending £150 on a case I'd go for Fractal Design Define 7 but there are lots of good cases out there

Thanks, I'll keep that case in mind, and have a look

 

[Shay Green]

For a case, making it even cheaper, i'd recommend the Fractal Design Meshify c as you would need really good airflow and a mesh front is one way to do it efficiently

 

[AlfieBJ]

Actually that cooler has 0 chance of cooling that processor under load it's in the 240 watt area.

Thanks, what sort of heatsink will I need for such a big CPU? Completely new to custom cooling im afraid.

 

[AlfieBJ]

For a case, making it even cheaper, i'd recommend the Fractal Design Meshify c as you would need really good airflow and a mesh front is one way to do it efficiently

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll have a look

 

[Koekieezz]

Thanks for your reply, I was initally looking at a ryzen build, as they are what I'm used to, but after looking at the benchmarks it seems the i9-10900k outperformed the ryzen on all bases. Is there a reason I'm missing for why a ryzen would be advisable? Thanks.

I changed the ram, it is a good performer ram and it could run on sync with the IF to 1:1 ratio (3600mhz ram : 1800mhz FCLK) and it would increase the performance, also i changed the cooler, it would decrease the temperature better, also i9 10900K consumes alot more power than R9 3900X for its kind of performance. Forget 5ghz the real world performance is what you need.

 

[Flayed]

This is what I would go with and spend the saved £1k on expensive wine lol
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor (£280.12 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£79.99 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£183.85 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£105.95 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£190.74 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card (£487.92 @ More Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Dark ATX Mid Tower Case (£144.48 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£111.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1585.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-20 14:02 BST+0100

 

[AlfieBJ]

I changed the ram, it is a good performer ram and it could run on sync with the IF to 1:1 ratio (3600mhz ram : 1800mhz FCLK) and it would increase the performance, also i changed the cooler, it would decrease the temperature better, also i9 10900K consumes alot more power than R9 3900X for its kind of performance. Forget 5ghz the real world performance is what you need.

Thanks for the help, personally I would prefer to build a ryzen system, so if you think performance would be fairly equal real world, I might well go for an AMD build. And sorry for being dumb but I have no idea what you meant by "it could run on sync with the IF to 1:1 ratio (3600mhz ram : 1800mhz FCLK) ", could you explain this for a newbie, thanks!

 

[Koekieezz]

And sorry for being dumb but I have no idea what you meant by "it could run on sync with the IF to 1:1 ratio (3600mhz ram : 1800mhz FCLK) ", could you explain this for a newbie, thanks!

it is in the bios settings, you could increase the performance of your ryzen processor by making the FCLK (infinity fabric clock AKA ringbus on intel) into 1:1 ratio with the ram. for example your Ram is 3600mhz on DDR so the real clock is 1800mhz, hence you could overclock the FCLK to 1800, and the CPU-RAM will run in sync (1:1, balanced) for a better performance. its totally safe and worth the try 😀

 

[Flayed]

No need to over complicate things. For Ryzen buy some 3600Mhz cl 16 ram boot into the bios and select D.O.C.P -> on save and exit. Job done.

 

[AlfieBJ]

No need to over complicate things. For Ryzen buy some 3600Mhz cl 16 ram boot into the bios and select D.O.C.P -> on save and exit. Job done.

Thank you both of your for explaining, I think I understand. To clarify, I need to buy compatible RAM and easy set up from bios? Would only cl16 ram fork for this, and should the ram speed be equal to processor speed? Also, what kind of impact on the components would this sort of overclocking have potentially?

And speaking about playing AAA games max settings (I dont think hes planning on 4k maybe 1440), would the £1500 r7 2070super build using FCLK compare similarly to the £2500 i9 2080ti build?

Thanks again for all the of help, it's been a great help

 

[Flayed]

No slower ram will work but will be well slower. How much faster is a 2080ti than a 2070 Super? Depends on the game and the resolution but around 20 to 30% faster maybe

 

[King Dranzer]

I highly recommend holding off the purchase specially if you are spending that high. New hardware is going to launch in just few months. No point spending that high to get top of the line hardware now.

 

[Flayed]

Yes true Nvidia is going to release new cards in September or October that will be much faster. The same is true of AMD. However if your friend wants to play games now and doesn't sound like he's short of cash then can always buy now and sell the graphics card later

 

[AlfieBJ]

Yes true Nvidia is going to release new cards in September or October that will be much faster. The same is true of AMD. However if your friend wants to play games now and doesn't sound like he's short of cash then can always buy now and sell the graphics card later

Wow thanks again for the information, think I'll have to get back to him and see what he wants to do on a few points before i finalise the build.

 

[King Dranzer]

If your friend already has a PC presently in use. Tell him to use it for bit longer.