£500 gaming buld [Help Nedded]

[JJmo]

Im looking to build a gaming pc for around £500. I will be using this build for mainly gaming and then just surfing the internet. I don't need a monitor os and Optical Drive. My Location is the UK i will not be looking to Overclock. Games that i will mostly be playing CS:GO, BF4, arma 3 Football manger, crysis 3 and alot of other games but they are the main games

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Kierann/saved/28tLrH
I would like a build like that but i need to lose near £40-30 off the build or more if you can get the same performance or even better

Thanks for the help if you could also list the average FPS the build would get on some of the games i listed that would be great.

 

[tiny voices]

Build looks great. Actually nothing I would change.

 

[JJmo]

Build looks great. Actually nothing I would change.

What would you suggest to change to cut down the build by around £40

 

[tiny voices]

To save that much, you either have to sacrifice CPU or GPU power.

You could change to an fx8320 build to save the money but keep the same GPU. This will keep roughly the same game performance.

 

[JJmo]

To save that much, you either have to sacrifice CPU or GPU power.

You could change to an fx8320 build to save the money but keep the same GPU. This will keep roughly the same game performance.

I guess that might be the way but then my upgrade options will be limited in the future could you make me a build with the 8320 and recommend a mobo and such

 

[tiny voices]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Dtf8xr

 

[JJmo]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Dtf8xr

Im really more keen on i5 build because of upgrades is there nothing i can downgrade like the mobo? Question about the 8320 how long would you think the build would last at high settings on good fps before needing upgrade?

 

[tiny voices]

You will not save the 40 you want by just changing the motherboard.

The 8320 is a great CPU will easily run all your games with no problems at high settings with that r9 280. honestly with a single r9 280 there will be no real difference in game performance between the i5 and 8320. It will last a long time. It will age just the same as the i5. Plus if new games really will be coded for more cores like everyone says they will be, then it might even age BETTER than the i5.

 

[JJmo]

You will not save the 40 you want by just changing the motherboard.

The 8320 is a great CPU will easily run all your games with no problems at high settings with that r9 280. honestly with a single r9 280 there will be no real difference in game performance between the i5 and 8320. It will last a long time. It will age just the same as the i5. Plus if new games really will be coded for more cores like everyone says they will be, then it might even age BETTER than the i5.

Last question at the bottom it says Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs.

 

[JJmo]

But then i think i should just spend the £40 more and get the i5 as people are saying the fx series is becoming a dead end

 

[tiny voices]

That warning does not apply to this motherboard. No problem.

If you want to go i5, that's fine too, but know it won't exactly perform any better than the 8320 option.

 

[JJmo]

Could anyone else make me a build for around £500?

 

[tiny voices]

Sorry man, you won't get better performance than the 8320 build I made for you for 500.

 

[logainofhades]

But then i think i should just spend the £40 more and get the i5 as people are saying the fx series is becoming a dead end

That warning does not apply to this motherboard. No problem.

If you want to go i5, that's fine too, but know it won't exactly perform any better than the 8320 option.

AM3+ is a dead end. Unless AMD magically changes their minds, or has left everyone totally in the dark, there will be no new CPU's for AM3+, other than Vishera refreshes. The i5 will perform better than an FX 8320. In some titles, even and i3 can beat an FX 8320. The FX 8320 will hold its own better in better threaded titles, but not without some overclocking. Made some changes to your i5 build, getting it closer to your target price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£61.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£59.44 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (£151.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£19.94 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.09 @ Aria PC)
Total: £505.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 15:03 BST+0100

 

[tiny voices]

Why would you go for the 600b when the XFX550 is SO MUCH BETTER and the same price? The 600B is a tier 3 unit and the XFX is a tier 2a.

I agree than an i5 is preferable in most situations over an 8320, but the FX is not as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

the case you selected (the whole reason the price dropped) doesn't work I believe. The hard drives hanng out the bottom of the bays by 1-1.5in and even with no HDDs it only has 300mm space, and that 280 is 294mm long. It will not fit with ANY HDDs installed.

 

[logainofhades]

Why would you go for the 600b when the XFX550 is SO MUCH BETTER and the same price? The 600B is a tier 3 unit and the XFX is a tier 2a.

I agree than an i5 is preferable in most situations over an 8320, but the FX is not as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

the case you selected (the whole reason the price dropped) doesn't work I believe. The hard drives hanng out the bottom of the bays by 1-1.5in and even with no HDDs it only has 300mm space, and that 280 is 294mm long. It will not fit with ANY HDDs installed.

The 600b is a decent PSU, and the extra upgrade headroom is nice to have. That choice is up to the OP to make. Neither PSU is a bad one. I see your point on the case. Made some other changes, only a little higher that last go round, but still close to the 500 mark. The OP can decide what they want PSU wise.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£56.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£59.44 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (£151.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.09 @ Aria PC)
Total: £507.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 15:33 BST+0100

 

[tiny voices]

The 600B isn't awful, I agree, but it really is about only as good as the Corsair CX units. I would go for the XFX 100%. I would rather pull 500w from an xfx55 than from a 600b all day everyday. This system will only pull 300w-ish at full 100% load though.

I like that Thermaltake much better. Will easily fit the GPU.

 

[JJmo]

Thanks guys could one of you recommend me a good monitor for gaming on the cheaper side

 

[logainofhades]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor (£99.99 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £99.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 16:51 BST+0100

 

[tiny voices]

I agree that is a great option. IPS for a great price.

 

[JJmo]

Thanks again to both you guys

 

[tiny voices]

Always glad to be able to help