1,000$ Gaming build help/suggestions

[Apollo127]

Hey guys I plan on building a new computer within the next week and I have decided that I am going to take out one of the 12month 0% interest using amazon or I think new egg also has something similiar and build myself a nice 1000$ or less gaming set up.

I have part of a build so far from what I have seen on this website but I haven't even gotten to case or psu and I am already at 850$.

My needs for this computer are to be able to pay all current and future mmos (for a while) at ultra settings on my 1920x1080 AOC monitor. I am leaning towards an i5 processor because I have heard that the cpu can be very loud and my current PC is super loud so I don't want to put up wit that again.

So long story short 1000$ MAXIMUM budget, don't need OS, Keyboard or Mouse. Ultra settings on current and future MMOs (I don't play many shooters only mmo).

Here is what I have so far, if anyone can help me get a effective, fast build I would appreciate it!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $844.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 20:57 EDT-0400)

I'd prefer all newegg or all amazon prices since I want to put them all on a 12% no interest card (unless there is a better option/choice)

Thanks!

 

[Apollo127]

Forgot to add, is an SSD worth the price? I only have a 500gb cheap HD in my current set up, with a amd 4170 quad core and gtx 650 on windows 7 and my boot time and super slow and loading time in world of warcraft can be long as well. So is a SSD worth the price or is it not noticeable enough on my budget?

 

[Hazle]

your parts are fine. you can shove a $50 case and a decent $70-90 PSU. won't leave much room for a 120gb SSD on such a tight budget though, but unless you got an HDD from another PC for mass storage, it's something you can sacrifice. SSDs are nice only when you can afford it.

alternatively, if your motherboard supports it, you can instead get an FX-8320 after a BIOS update and a GPU, though not necessarily a 770. a 760 or 270X would be plenty for most MMOs, and the cpu may not be up to snuff compared to an i5, but it will yield playable results. MMOs aren't exactly difficult to run.

but if you gotta go with an overhaul and want an SSD, only advice i can give you is to go with a non-OCed CPU. an example;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.94 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($229.20 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.78 @ Newegg)
Total: $846.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 21:31 EDT-0400)

yes, you don't actually need a third party cooler here, but considering you're trying to minimize fan noise, i may as well try. DDR3-1866 can be dismissed for ddr3-1600 as performance isn't going to experience a huge hit, but i guess you can spare an extra $15-20 if you want to.

 

[Apollo127]

Thanks for the reply Hazle. I think you are right about the SSD, not really going to fit in the budget which isn't a big deal to me. I do however think I wanna stay with the K series and cooler because I might overclock a little bit for extra boost. With the build I posted do you think your PSU you have in your build would still handle the 770? If the 770 really isn't need then I can try the 760 but right now I have a gtx 650 and can only get about 30 fps in wildstar which is the game I will be playing. Thanks!

 

[Apollo127]

Also would I notice a big difference between an overclocked 4760 over a 4440? The price difference is actually pretty big, plus if I don't need a cpu cooler that would save even more money. Is it better to have a better GPU or CPU? My amd fx 4170 and gtx 650 both run like crap so I am just afraid I will get into something new that I don't find the performance I need.

 

[Hazle]

a 520W PSU should be able to handle a 770. 2x 770's and/or a whole lotta HDDs is a no-no. a 760 should offer a massive boost over a 650. a 770 much more. if that's a 60hz monitor you got, anything north of a 270x should be plenty for a constant 60fps, save for maybe those crazy crowded areas. most people don't see the 650 a worthy gaming GPU.

EDIT: the 4440 will at least outperform most of the FX series in most cases. a an OCed 4670K will naturally outperform a 4440, but that's gonna depend on the game and the situation. you may or may not even see it. additionally if you are going to OC, i suggest considering getting a Z87. for the price, the board at least has more chokes + proper MOSFET cooling for stability when OCing. Z97 is fine if you were thinking of getting a Haswell Refresh CPU

 

[Apollo127]

Thanks again for the Hazle! I am so torn between getting the 4670k or the 4440... There is a pretty significant price savings if I get the 4440 but I am not sure if the loss in power is worth the cheaper price. I am def going to do the 770 its just a matter of the 4670k or the 4440. Does anyone have experience with a 770 and 4670k/4440 set up that can add some input to my decision?

My budget is 1000$ strict but I am tempted to get the 4440 and then have some money left over between that and not needing a cpu cooler and possiblly be able to get a mechanical keyboard since I am currently using a 40$ wireless keyboard and razer death adder combo.

Whats the best MOBO combo for each the 4440 cpu and the 4670k?

In the end I think I will probably chose the 4440 but I am just afraid because my last PC I skimped on cheap parts here and there and I was somewhat happy with the PC when it was new but I think that was only because it was new bc the PC performed horrible fairly quickly.

Thanks again everyone! I hope to be ordering this PC by the weekend so I can get some wildstar going once its released!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.02 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.78 @ Newegg)
Total: $847.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 23:31 EDT-0400)

this is what I have come up so far, pretty much same as before but different cpu. I need a good case for like 70$ or less thats not bad on the eyes

 

[CTurbo]

This is a much better way to spend $840

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qH4c4D
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qH4c4D/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qH4c4D/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($91.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $837.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 23:37 EDT-0400)



For just $5 more, the 4570 is a lot better than the 4440. The H97 motherboard will support the next gen cpus. The Tri-X 290 is way faster than a GTX770 and it does not run hot and/or loud.

 

[CTurbo]

I went with the newer slightly faster i5 4590, added a very good psu, and even fit a solid ssd in comfortably under budget.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qVBkjX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qVBkjX/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qVBkjX/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($91.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $986.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-28 23:41 EDT-0400)

 

[Hazle]

now i have no idea how well WS will fare performance-wise, but being an MMORPG, it's likely not going to be a system intensive game (bar a performance bug) as is the case with most MMOs for the sake of opening up to a wide market. going on a limb, at it's worst, it's likely to perform like WoW.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/62
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-15.html

note the gap between a non-k i5 and an FX-8150, which should be better than your 4170. true, you do lose a small percentage of performance between an OCed i5 and non-K i5, but at an average of 90-100+fps, not something you should be deeply concerned about.

as for mobo, if you aren't going to OC, an H87/H97/B85. if you are going to OC, or plan to get another 770 to SLI later (which will require a larger PSU, if not now, much later), a Z87/Z97.

personal recommendation on the mobo;
4670K: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z87extreme3
more chokes than the Z97 you listed + proper MOSFET heatsinks = better chance of system stability when OCed. also, cheap.

4440/4570/4670: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97pro4 or any of the H97/87 boards around that price range.
for the price, should offer a decent build quality. while not necessary, a MOSFET heatsink is a nice little extra..

 

[4cloud]

I like cTurbo's second build non OC. But the R9 290 might not be worth it if your playing at a low res.

 

[Apollo127]

Thanks for the replies again, I was originally going to go with the r9 290 but figured it might be over kill for my needs. That 2nd build cturbo posted seems perfect however I think if I switch that set up to the same thing but with the 770 then I can have enough money to fit the case into my budget, orrrrr keep the 290 and get rid of the SSD and then still have rooom to get a case and stay under 1000$ which is my absolute max, so many decisions thanks for everyone's input.

 

[Apollo127]

Also to answer your SLI comment Hazle I don't think I will do SLI in the future I have never done it before and for my needs sli would probably be unneeded at least for now



I just switched that build to be all parts from Newegg only and itws down to 948$ total so thats even better for my price range. The added ssd is a big plus on that set up plus the 290 will hopefully last me a long time so I think that might be my best option! With a case I will be right around 1000$

Does anyone have a case to reccomend less than 70$ to finish the build?

 

[CTurbo]

Corsair 300R, Cooler Master N400, Antec Three Hundred, and Thermaltake Chaser are a few good ones under $70

 

[Apollo127]

Here is my final set up, sadly I had to remove the SSD which I wasnt very happy about, but I would rather have the r9 290 and no SSD then have to downgrade that to make up money! The PSU that was suggested had a increase in price then partspicker so I had to switch that as well but over all I am very happy/excited!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($91.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.22 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1015.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-29 22:00 EDT-0400)

Note that the price on my partspicker link is a little inaccurate, my newegg shopping cart has the build at $980.93 which is 20$ under budget.

Thanks for everyone who helped me!

 

[Apollo127]

Not sure why my build is so off priced, I didnt mean to add that ssd in the final list, total is 980 without ssd, my newegg says 1070$ with the ssd