[SOLVED] 1 cpu core hitting 88% ?!?!

[ryusky91]

Okay so i just recently got a gaming pc: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zWdVvn
So the issue im having is one of my cores in my cpu is hitting 88%
Am i hitting a bottleneck?
Games/fps (ALL MAX GRAPHICS):
Final fantasy 14 - v sync constant 60 fps never drops 144-160 fps unvsynced <-- not a problem in this game
^<------- No recording required easy and beautifull.
Guild wars 2 - Vysync 60 fps out in the world 30-40 fps in towns Now adjustable settings here and there i was able to maintain 60 fps in large towns without vsync <---- feel like maybe the games unoptimized or somethings wrong with this pc.
^<------- This game is so un-optimized I didnt bother recording it didnt want to stress things any worse than they were.
Apex Legends - Vysync 60 fps before we drop from the ship it drops to 40 fps as soon as i land it levels out pure 60 fps odd server lag here and there but i feel like i shouldnt be dipping now without vsync 90-144 fps but screen tearing is UNBEARABLE!
^<-------

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuJcIWZMVQw&t=4s
looks really good but its been deteriorating ever so slightly Never got to unvsync it.
Eso (elder scrolls online) - pretty perfect, other than some events i dip a little under 60 to about 44 fps without vsync it drops for 80-40 fps at certian spots <--- my old pc witch is garbage ran eso max just fine!
^<-------

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJX5Ikc6Oww
Got vsync and unvsynced in this video

VERDICT:I may be to picky or maybe im just expecting to much from my parts, but i feel like im dipping and not sure why the 88% in one of the cores is happening. Now my last question
Would getting a g-sync monitor fix the Screen tearing because without v-sync things are beautiful just the screen tearing KILLS IT for me, I also heard having a g-sync monitor requires V-sync so wont that cap it at 60fps? and input lag im so confused about computers is i my screen my cpu my graphics card WHATTTTTT XD
And again sorry mods if you find this not in the right spot
NOTHING IS OVERCLOCKED OTHER THAN XMP FOR RAM.
I know im stupid but please i beg of you try to tell me what the problem is

 

[King_V]

Well, games that are not well optimized for multiple cores will do that.

That said, if it's never actually hitting 100%, then even that one core still has headroom.

Tearing will occur without VSync. VSync exists as a setting in games, regardless of monitor. The game waits until vertical sync before displaying the next frame. If you turn Vsync off, you may have the top part of the screen displaying one frame, then the tearing and below the tear-line, the next frame being displayed at the lower part.

Gsync and FreeSync are both adaptive sync technologies, and basically adjust the refresh rate on the fly to avoid tearing and maintain smoothness. Previously, with AMD cards, you use FreeSync, and Nvidia cards, you use GSync. However, GSync monitors require extra hardware from Nvidia, and cost more. Fortunately, with the most recent drivers from Nvidia, they are starting to support working with FreeSync monitors.

What is your monitor's resolution?

 

[ryusky91]

Well, games that are not well optimized for multiple cores will do that.

That said, if it's never actually hitting 100%, then even that one core still has headroom.

Tearing will occur without VSync. VSync exists as a setting in games, regardless of monitor. The game waits until vertical sync before displaying the next frame. If you turn Vsync off, you may have the top part of the screen displaying one frame, then the tearing and below the tear-line, the next frame being displayed at the lower part.

Gsync and FreeSync are both adaptive sync technologies, and basically adjust the refresh rate on the fly to avoid tearing and maintain smoothness. Previously, with AMD cards, you use FreeSync, and Nvidia cards, you use GSync. However, GSync monitors require extra hardware from Nvidia, and cost more. Fortunately, with the most recent drivers from Nvidia, they are starting to support working with FreeSync monitors.

What is your monitor's resolution?

1920x1080p 60 hz insignia screen around 46-50 inch.

 

[Rogue Leader]

1920x1080p 60 hz insignia screen around 46-50 inch.

You're using a TV, thats not a monitor

The performance you are getting especially with Vsync on is to be expected. Your setup is far more capable than that screen can demonstrate. Get yourself a 100hz or 144hz monitor with Gsync or freesync (the driver supports freesync now too), and you will get rid of all that tearing and run at a much higher visible fps.

 

[ryusky91]

You're using a TV, thats not a monitor

The performance you are getting especially with Vsync on is to be expected. Your setup is far more capable than that screen can demonstrate. Get yourself a 100hz or 144hz monitor with Gsync or freesync (the driver supports freesync now too), and you will get rid of all that tearing and run at a much higher visible fps.

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[Rogue Leader]

I LOVE YOU THANK YOU SOOOOOO MCUH

Ha, no problem. TVs also have much worse latency than a good monitor. They really aren't good for high fps gaming. Either way your system is running correctly, one core will always be working more, but 88% is not maxed out, obviously. Nothing to worry about.

 

[TerryLaze]

Either way your system is running correctly, one core will always be working more, but 88% is not maxed out, obviously. Nothing to worry about.

Since tools like afterburner and task manager show you an average usage over time and because windows is juggling threads around the physical cores to keep one part of the CPU from heating up more then others,that 88% is 100% 100% usage on one core.

Since you didn't overclock anything you should really monitor core clocks while gaming because motherboards have wildly different default settings,your CPU might be running slower than it could.

 

[ryusky91]

Since tools like afterburner and task manager show you an average usage over time and because windows is juggling threads around the physical cores to keep one part of the CPU from heating up more then others,that 88% is 100% 100% usage on one core.

Since you didn't overclock anything you should really monitor core clocks while gaming because motherboards have wildly different default settings,your CPU might be running slower than it could.

im going to overclock. just gotta get the guts todo it just scared!

 

[Rogue Leader]

Since tools like afterburner and task manager show you an average usage over time and because windows is juggling threads around the physical cores to keep one part of the CPU from heating up more then others,that 88% is 100% 100% usage on one core.

Since you didn't overclock anything you should really monitor core clocks while gaming because motherboards have wildly different default settings,your CPU might be running slower than it could.

No, its not. If it was showing total CPU usage as 88% then you could theorize that more than 1 core is at 100%, but if it is showing a single core at 88%, its 88%. It may have spiked to 100%, which does not matter, bu its running consistently at 88%.

 

[ryusky91]

idle its fine just under certian games

 

[TerryLaze]

No, its not. If it was showing total CPU usage as 88% then you could theorize that more than 1 core is at 100%, but if it is showing a single core at 88%, its 88%. It may have spiked to 100%, which does not matter, bu its running consistently at 88%.

The only (other) reason to be consistently stuck at 88% is to have a consistent 12% bottleneck from the GPU or vsync,which is improbable because both CPU and GPU usage changes wildly depending on where you look and what you do.
Anyway there is software out there that will show you thread usage in real time and not as an average so you don't have to guess.
54% and 5% ?
no 100% on one thread (half of a core due to HTT) and the rest is just background noise.

 

[Rogue Leader]

The only (other) reason to be consistently stuck at 88% is to have a consistent 12% bottleneck from the GPU or vsync,which is improbable because both CPU and GPU usage changes wildly depending on where you look and what you do.
Anyway there is software out there that will show you thread usage in real time and not as an average so you don't have to guess.
54% and 5% ?
no 100% on one thread (half of a core due to HTT) and the rest is just background noise.

Again, no. You can have a game that doesn't even max out a CPU core. Try playing For Honor for example. That game will barely go over 50% core usage on my system. You do not measure a bottleneck in percentage that you are not using of a CPU core.

I don't understand your aversion to average scores. You can use afterburner, reset it to start when you want it to (say after the game is running) and clearly see in the charts what range its running in and a reasonably accurate average usage, per core, and total.

 

[TerryLaze]

Again, no. You can have a game that doesn't even max out a CPU core. Try playing For Honor for example. That game will barely go over 50% core usage on my system. You do not measure a bottleneck in percentage that you are not using of a CPU core.

I don't understand your aversion to average scores. You can use afterburner, reset it to start when you want it to (say after the game is running) and clearly see in the charts what range its running in and a reasonably accurate average usage, per core, and total.

So you seriously believe that games can use a core to only 50% ?They only use half of the available speed? How does that happen, is the game just giving up?
Process/thread Migration is a real thing read about it,this image is of one single thread of prime95 running normally under windows,it shows up as a % of usage on every core just like for honor is showing up for you because windows is juggling the threads around and task manager is showing you an average.
https://superuser.com/questions/678666/windows-8-1-process-migration-limits-cpu-frequency-scaling

 

[Rogue Leader]

So you seriously believe that games can use a core to only 50% ?They only use half of the available speed? How does that happen, is the game just giving up?
Process/thread Migration is a real thing read about it,this image is of one single thread of prime95 running normally under windows,it shows up as a % of usage on every core just like for honor is showing up for you because windows is juggling the threads around and task manager is showing you an average.
https://superuser.com/questions/678666/windows-8-1-process-migration-limits-cpu-frequency-scaling

I seriously do believe that because it is true, For Honor is a GPU bound game. There is a minimal difference between most high end CPUs in performance in that game, and to get a significant framerate difference you need to drop down to something significantly slower like an FX-8350.