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hi guys im new here and a beginner for building computers. I would appreciate help and tips for building my next 10 year build system. tips on better quality parts for less cost would be appreicated and best parts or better parts to use with another part i have on my list.

here is my build:
cpu: i9-9900k
cpu cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML120R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

m.b: maximus x formula
gpu: geforce rtx 2080
ssd: samsung 512gb
hhd: wd velociraptor 1tb 10000rmp
ram: g. skill trident z rgb 3600 32gb up to 64gb

i have 1000w power supply and case still from my previous 10 year build that works with these parts.
also looking at speed which is the best path when it comes to the HHD set up? should i go with a HHD or SSD ? i heard reg HHD recover is possible for my pics and videos if something were ever to happen, and SSD is not recoverable ? is this true? would love advice. p.s I do want super fast speeds but i also want to make sure my files are recoverable.

I notice alot of these parts are very fancy looking with lights and stuff i guess for show. is there same type of parts with out the fanciness for less money or is looking fancy part of the deal with the high end build? thanks for all the help guys.

just wanted to add that i enjoy streaming movies 4k and gaming has caught my eye recently in the VR world. I know my system is probably over kill but that is kinda the point thats why its a ten year build.. thanks guys for all your helpful hints. also
 
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The CPU cooler won't handle the 9900K, you need at least a 280mm AIO.

You need a Z390 MB, the one you picked is a Z370 and it's overkill anyway unless you are going with LN2 extreme OCing etc.

The PSU needs to be replaced if it's 10 years old, and I would replace the case also as the new ones are much better today.

Also better to get a 1TB SSD instead of the reg HD.

16 GB of ram is plenty.

 
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Found the ram without RGB on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-3600Mhz-PC4-28800-Channel/dp/B01MYDM603/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1548949404&sr=8-2&keywords=g.skill+trident+z+32gb+3600


Other than that, you might as well go with a new case and PSU. Here's this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($529.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI FORMULA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($446.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($167.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - WD VelociRaptor 1 TB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($216.11 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card ($719.00 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake - View 21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($61.81 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2391.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 10:48 EST-0500
 
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are these prices U.S or Canadian dallors?
 
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Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($529.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($138.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($799.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Ultra Titanium 750 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($179.90 @ B&H)
Total: $2394.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 10:56 EST-0500


CANADA Prices....


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($697.93 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($194.00 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($399.00 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($243.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($209.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($1130.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Ultra Titanium 750 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($279.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $3325.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 10:57 EST-0500
 
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US.

This is the CA list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($697.93 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.90 @ Corsair)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI FORMULA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($540.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital - WD VelociRaptor 1 TB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($249.19 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card ($999.99 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Thermaltake - View 21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $3095.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-31 10:57 EST-0500
 
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That was what I was going to add to OP's part list, but I didn't want to deviate too much from his initial build. He seemed to know, more or less, what he wanted.
 
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Ran a 1st Gen i7 870 then upgraded that to a 7700K machine.

So it was awhile between systems.

Still have the MB, RAM and CPU in a box now for the 870 machine.

Getting ready to switch out my 3rd gen i5 machine with the 7700K, MB, CPU and RAM (It's in a box now) soon as Windows 7 is getting close to EOL. That way I will have 3 pretty new machines again and won't have to bother again for a good while.

 
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thanks for your help. one ? whats difference on the ram for example the "rgb or non rgb? what does that mean?
 
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I had a couple of gift cards and did a cpu/motherboard/memory upgrade from an i5 2500k to a R7 1700 and purchased a used GTX 1080 TI for $550. Best decision in components I ever made because second gen Intel was the first gen to really increase their IPC and frequency and the Ryzen 1700 was the first 8 Core 16 Thread chip to be released under $1,000, so I know when the timing is right to upgrade and how to ensure system longevity. I'm just going to sit on this build for a while until the competition of price to performance somewhat stabilizes. If you really go ten years between systems, my advice is to wait until 3rd gen Ryzen. What is going to give you longevity with a system build for triple A titles is no longer frequency (Not so much especially at 1440p or higher resolutions), but core count. You'll get both with 3rd gen Ryzen releasing in June and don't get me wrong an i9 9900k will give you the longevity you're looking for. However that is a lot of money that could be allocated to other areas of your build when 3rd Gen Ryzen is released. Due to Ryzens release roughly two years ago, game developers have been starting to optimize for 8 cores/16 threads and will continue to expand upon that. If you upgrade every 3-5 years, my answer would be different, but it definitely would behoove you to wait until June to spec out a 10 year system. You'll get a lot more performance for the money, especially if third gen Ryzen can match or beat out the i9 9900k. It's worth waiting because if you've waited ten years, what's another five months?
 
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thanks for ur help, in regards to the ssd you mention. you referring to replace the raptor? is this better for speed performance? I was told but not sure if true that if something were to happen to the drive like a failure using a ssd i would not be able to recover data and using the reg Hd its possible. if you know any info thanks
 
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Huh? There are no minimum cooling requirements for a 9900K. You can run a 240mm cooler and you can even run something like a D15. I wouldn't get anything less than that though.
 
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MUCH FASTER.

Just do regular backups on a USB Thumb drive of important stuff.

Seriously though I wouldn't worry too much about a top quality SSD failing.
 
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He has a 120mm AIO listed so I figured he wanted to go with water cooling.

Yes I have an NH D15 cooling my 9900K.

I wouldn't personally use any AIO in a long term system and don't use AIO's at all personally.
 
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Yes, an SSD of any type is faster than any spinning drive.
And "drive failure" can happen to any drive, and all of a sudden.

Backups will cover this.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3383768/backup-situation-home.html
 
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Yeah but saying that you need at minimum a 280mm AIO is misleading. The 120s aren't the best but they're certainly not the worst either. And the 9900K is definitely not the 9590. That was the only CPU where you really needed a monster PSU and cooling solution for it to work properly. Thankfully there hasn't been a case like that since.
 
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The 9900K's are THAT bad... LOL

Although they do pull around 180W and can pull more if OCed heavy beyond 5 GHZ.
 
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thanks guys for your feed back, so regarding the cooling. does this 9900k need a cooling just operating normally for normal eveyday computing and streaming? or is it only neccesary to have one when ur gaming and doing VR. right now i dont game at all but i am looking to maybe get a VR set up soon so just want to make sure i get what i need or dont need and maybe add it later what makes more sense? thank!
 
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Believe me, you need to get a good CPU cooler from the start or you will regret it.
 
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so whats the pro and con with the coolers long term for using liquid? is one better than the other (non liquid) can it leak over time or something? sorry if it sounds alittle stupid.
 
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Yeah the AIO's CAN leak and the pumps CAN and DO go bad. Can't think of any positives offhand as it takes a very expensive AIO to match the top end air coolers.

With good top end air coolers you just install them and forget about it and they are generally quieter than AIO's also.
 
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