100MB System Reserved Partition regarding clean install

[dutchrend]

I have two questions actually, both regarding hard drives..

1. I'll be receiving the components to build my new computer over the next 2 days, but I'm going to use my current Western Digital 1TB HD in it until the next gen SSDs come out. I am going to perform a clean install of windows 7 pro x64. I'm going to delete the current C: partition and create a new one for the fresh install, but keep the current storage partition with all my storage files. My first question is this: When I work with the partitioning within Windows 7 setup, do I need to keep the 100MB system reserved partition that is currently there, or is it safe to delete both the 100mb system reserved partition along with the current C: (with os/apps/games) partition together? Will deleting the current 100MB system reserved partition affect my access to the partition I am using for storage? My disk management appears as follows:

Disk 0, Basic, 931.51GB, online: [System Reserved, 100MB NTFS] [(C 489.03GB NTFS] [(Storage F 295.90GB NTFS] [146.49GB Unallocated]


2. I'm giving my parents my current PC after I've finished putting together the new one. They play minimal low resource consuming games, do office work, and browse the internet. I noticed while reviewing specs that the hard drive I ordered them only had a 8MB cache. Will only having 8MB of cache cause a severe bottleneck in performance to their day to day activities? (I really should have looked at the cache before ordering, but it's done and will arrive tomorrow) The hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3250318AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive.

Any quick assistance with either of those questions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance ;D.

 

[John_VanKirk]

Hi there,
When you install Win-7 cleanly, it will ask you to choose or set the size of the C: partition for Windows-7. That will take 20-30 GB. Set it for the size you feel you will need for Win-7 and added programs and data. It will also make a new 100 MB reserved hidden partition at the front of the disk for the boot config data store, recovery files and bitlocker space. It is not absolutely necessary if you are never going to use those OS stored features, but with that size HDD, put it there just in case.

What would be the safest is to copy your data files to a separate HDD temporarily, remove the partitions so it is preferably unallocated or just one partition, and install Windows-7 anew. Choose the size of the partition for the OS, and complete the installation. You can then adjust the C:\ partition size in Disk Management if desired, and set up the F:\ Data Partition, and leave unallocated space at the end if you want. When all done, then copy your storage data back to the newly made partition.

 

[dutchrend]

Thanks for the info, that takes care of the first question. Any ideas on the 2nd question about the 8MB cache hard drive that I'll be installing on the computer for my parents?

 

[sminlal]

When you do your Windows 7 install make sure that there are no drives connected apart from the one you're going to install onto. If another drive is available then the install kit will put the reserved partition there instead of on the OS drive.

The 8MB cache shouldn't be an issue. Smaller drives don't require as much cache because there are typically fewer bytes per track and/or tracks per cylinder.

 

[dutchrend]

deleted the C partition and it created a new 100mb system reserved upon install + left my storage partition alone.

aside from the actual win7 installation, everything is running quickly on their system even w/ the 8mb cache HDD

 

[dutchrend]

Best answer selected by dutchrend.

 

[ba2486]

Thanks for the info, that takes care of the first question. Any ideas on the 2nd question about the 8MB cache hard drive that I'll be installing on the computer for my parents?

How to Remove the Windows "System Reserved" Partition

Important: This article covers removing the System Reserved partition created when installing Windows 7 or Windows 8 on a MBR drive. Do not attempt to perform this procedure on UEFI systems where Windows is installed on a GPT drive.

Problem:

Windows setup created a System Reserved partition and installed the booting files on it. As a result, booting directly from the Windows partition is not possible.

Cause:

During the installation of Windows, a previously created primary NTFS partition was not specified as the destination. Windows Setup created the System Reserved partition (100MB for Windows 7, 350MB for Windows 8) containing the booting files and a second partition containing Windows.

Solution:

Copy the Windows booting files and Windows RE (Windows 8 only) to the Windows partition, apply the necessary BCD file corrections, and (optionally) remove the System Reserved partition.

Important: The Windows 7 booting files must reside on a partition with a NTFS cluster size of 4K (the default size). If your Windows 7 partition does not have 4K clusters you will not be able to move the booting files to it. An example would be that you've formatted the Windows 7 partition with 8K clusters. More information can be found in this Microsoft KB article. (This limitation does not apply to Windows 8.)

Note: If you are using a version of Windows that supports BitLocker (e.g. Windows 7 Ultimate/Enterprise, Windows 8 Pro/Enterprise) and are currently using or plan to use BitLocker, do not remove the System Reserved partition.

Note: These instructions assume that the Windows partition is a primary partition. If Windows is installed to a logical partition, removing the System Reserved partition will most likely result in a non-booting system unless using a boot manager such as BootIt BM.

Instructions:

Part 1 - Copy the Booting Files and Configure the Windows Partition for Booting

Boot into Windows. If running Windows 8, go to the Desktop.

To allow access to the System Reserved partition, use Disk Management to assign a drive letter to it:
Press WinKey+R (press and hold the Windows key and press R) to open the Run dialog.
Type diskmgmt.msc into the Open box and click the OK button. The Disk Management window will be displayed (may take several seconds to scan the drives).
Right-click on the System Reserved partition and select Change Drive Letter and Paths... from the pop-up menu.
Note: If the System Reserved partition is hidden the label won't be shown (it will be blank) and the option to change the drive letter will be disabled. The partition will most likely be displayed as "100 MB Healthy (Active, Primary Partition)" (Windows 8 will show "350 MB" for the size) and be located at the start of the drive, prior to the Windows partition. Please see Appendix A at the end of this article to unhide the partition.
Click the Add button.
An available drive letter will automatically be selected. You can keep it or select a different one. When finished, click the OK button. In this example, E: will be assigned to the System Reserved partition.
Leave the Disk Management window open (it will be needed again in later steps).

Note: If an AutoPlay window or pop-up appears, just close it or ignore it.

Press WinKey+E to open Explorer.

Make note of the drive letter assigned to the System Reserved partition and the letter assigned to the Windows partition. In this example, C: is the Windows partition and E: is the System Reserved (booting) partition.

Note: It's a good idea to give the partitions meaningful labels. This can help you tell them apart more easily. For example, the label for the Windows 7 partition might be Win7. This can be especially helpful when trying to tell which partition is which from the Command Prompt.

Close Explorer once you've determined the drive letter assignments.

Start an Administrator mode Command Prompt. To do this in Windows 7, click on the Start button, then All Programs, then Accessories. Right-click on the Command Prompt item and select Run as administrator from the pop-up menu. In Windows 8, press WinKey+X (or right-click the lower-left corner of the Desktop) and click Command Prompt (Admin) on the pop-up menu.

If a UAC prompt is displayed, click the Yes button.

Windows 8 only: Disable the Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE). Run the following command:
reagentc /disable

Verify that the winre.wim file was correctly moved to the C:\Windows\System32\Recovery folder by running the following command (if your Windows partition is not C:, use the letter that's correct for your system). You should see the file in the directory listing.
dir /a C:\Windows\System32\Recovery

Note: This step is necessary because WinRE also needs to be moved from the System Reserved partition to the Windows partition. Leaving WinRE enabled will result in a broken/unusable WinRE after this procedure has completed. If the above command does not report success, you may need to manually copy the WinRE files (in the hidden \Recovery\{GUID} folder on the System Reserved partition) to an alternate location.

Unload the BCD registry hive by running the following command:
reg unload HKLM\BCD00000000

Copy the bootmgr file from the System Reserved (booting) partition to the Windows partition (make sure to use the drive letters as assigned on your computer). Run the following command:
robocopy e:\ c:\ bootmgr

Copy the Boot folder from the System Reserved (booting) partition to the Windows partition. Run the following command:
robocopy e:\Boot C:\Boot /s

The booting files have now been copied. If you wish to verify that they were copied correctly, run the following command (make sure to use the drive letter of the Windows partition):
dir c:\ /ah

If the bootmgr file and the Boot folder show up in the list, the procedure was successful.

To update the copied BCD file so it will boot correctly, run the following command:
bcdedit /store c:\boot\bcd /set {bootmgr} device partition=C:

Update the Memory Diagnostic entry by running the following command:
bcdedit /store c:\boot\bcd /set {memdiag} device partition=C:

Note: If your Windows partition is assigned a letter other than C:, make sure to use that value instead.

Note: If you are using BootIt BM, you can use the BCD Edit feature to update the BCD file instead of running the above commands. See Part 2 - Step 3 for details.

Close the Command Prompt window.

Remove the drive letter assignment from the System Reserved partition and set the Windows partition as the Active (booting) partition.
Return to Disk Management (reopen, if not left open in Step 2).
Right-click on the System Reserved partition and select Change Drive Letter and Paths... from the pop-up menu.
Click the Remove button.
Click the Yes button to confirm the change.
Right-click on the Windows partition and select Mark Partition as Active from the pop-up menu.
Click the Yes button to confirm the change. You should see the Active tag move from the System Reserved partition to the Windows partition.
Close the Disk Management window.

Windows should now be configured to boot properly from its own partition. Restart the computer.

Note: If you receive an error message upon booting, the boot sector of the Windows partition may need to be repaired (see How to Rebuild the Boot Sector for Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8).

Windows 8 only: Enable the Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE). To do this, open an Administrator Command Prompt (if necessary, refer to instructions in Step 6) and run the following command:
reagentc /enable

The command should be successful if the previous disable was successful. On systems where TBWinRE was used to update WinRE it is not necessary to rerun TBWinRE after enabling WinRE (the TBWinRE configuration will be retained).

Part 2 - Update BootIt BM to Boot Windows

Note: If you are not using BootIt BM as your boot manager, you can skip this part of the instructions.

Reboot to BootIt BM.

Edit the relevant Windows Boot Menu entry. Select the Windows partition as the booting partition. Save the change.

If you didn't run the BCD update commands in Part 1 - Step 12, go into Partition Work and select the Windows partition. Click the BCD Edit button. Select the Boot section. Configure the appropriate entry (e.g. Windows 7 or Windows 8) by following the instructions under the Important BCD Settings section of the article How to Use the BCD Edit Feature of BootIt BM.

Part 3 - Remove the System Reserved Partition

Note: This part is optional. Removing the partition will only gain 100MB (Windows 7) or 350MB (Windows 8) of unallocated space. However, it will free up one primary partition slot.

Important: Windows 8 users may wish to verify that the Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) functions correctly from the Windows partition before deleting the System Reserved partition. If disabling and enabling WinRE (per Part 1 instructions) failed, the winre.wim file may exist only on the System Reserved partition (in the hidden \Recovery\{GUID} folder). Deleting the partition in this case would result in losing the file (unless a backup image has been created or the files have been copied elsewhere).

Deleting the partition can be done from either Windows Disk Management or BootIt BM.

Using Disk Management:

If Windows hasn't been rebooted since the completion of the Part 1 instructions, restart Windows. It should boot normally.
Start Disk Management (reference Part 1 - Steps 2a through 2b, if necessary).
Verify that the Windows partition is now tagged as both the System and the Active partition. The System Reserved partition should just be tagged as Primary Partition.
Right-click on the System Reserved partition.
Select Delete Volume... from the pop-up menu.
Click the Yes button to confirm the deletion.
The space used by the System Reserved partition should now be shown as Unallocated.

Using BootIt BM:

Boot into BootIt BM.
Enter Maintenance mode.
Click Partition Work on the desktop.
Select the System Reserved partition and then click the Delete button.
Click the Yes button to confirm the deletion.

If you now wish to resize the Windows partition to use this space, proceed as follows:

Select the Windows partition and then click the Slide button.
Enter 0 in the Free Space Before box.
Click the OK button.
Read the warning and then click the Continue button to proceed.
Once the slide has completed, verify that the Windows partition is still selected and then click the Resize button.
Click the OK button to error check the file system.
Adjust the New Size value to what you want. Setting it to the Max Size value will resize the partition to use all available free space.
Click the OK button.
Read the warning and then click the Continue button to proceed. When the resize and error check has completed, click the Close button.
Return to the Boot Menu and boot into Windows.

Appendix A - Unhiding the System Reserved Partition

If the System Reserved partition is hidden you will not be able to assign a drive letter to it until it's unhidden. This can be accomplished in several ways:

Using BootIt BM:

Boot to the BootIt BM boot media and enter Partition Work.
Select the drive with the System Reserved partition.
Select the System Reserved partition.
Click the Properties button.
Click the Unhide button.
Click OK to close the Properties window and then click OK to close Partition Work.
Remove the BootIt BM boot media and reboot into Windows.

Using DISKPART:

While still in Windows, start an Administrator Command Prompt.

Type diskpart at the prompt and press ENTER. DISKPART will start and display the DISKPART> prompt.

Type list disk and press ENTER. Note the disk number of the drive that contains the System Reserved partition. Note that the disk numbers correspond to the disk numbers shown in Disk Management. Disk 0 will be used in this example.

Type sel disk 0 and press ENTER (make sure to use the correct disk number for your system).

Type list par and press ENTER. The System Reserved partition should show up in the list (e.g. Primary, 100 MB). Partition 1 will be used in this example. If you have selected the wrong disk just go back to Step 3 and try a different disk.

Type sel par 1 and press ENTER.

Type detail par and press ENTER. Assuming the correct partition has been selected, it should show Type:17, Hidden:Yes, Active:Yes, and the offset. It should also report that there is no volume associated with the partition.

IMPORTANT: Make sure you have selected the correct partition before proceeding.

Type set id=7 and press ENTER. This will change the partition type from 0x17 (Hidden NTFS) to 0x07 (NTFS) and unhide it.

Type detail par and press ENTER. Verify that the partition is now type 7 and not hidden. Volume details and the partition's label should be displayed.

With the partition unhidden, go back to Part 1 and continue with the instructions.