1030 Graphics Card Compatibility to my Motherboard

[Nick Kitson]

I have a motherboard with this model P5KPL-AM EPU and 4gb of DDR2 RAM. I was hoping to buy a Palit GT 1030 2GB GDDR5, is this graphics suited for my current build?

Additional spec: Core 2 Duo e4500, 450watts true rated power supply.

 

[panathas]

You can't be certain whether it will work or not. Theoretically it should work, however in reality you are looking more at 50-50. The only way is to install it in your system in order to know for sure.

Your mobo only has a PCIe 16x 1.0 slot. The 1030 is a PCIe 3.0 card which is theoretically backwards compatible with older PCIe versions, but many have reported compatibility issue between PCIe 3.0 and older boards with PCIe 2.0/1.0, but most of them have been about PCIe 1.0 (like your board). On top of that your motherboard is also very old with a pretty much obsolete BIOS version that will certainly cause compatibility issues with new hardware.

So my advice would be to either get the 1030 but only if you have the option of returning it back if it doesn't work or try to find an older graphics card (most of them should be used), which will probably have fewer compatibility issues with your mobo. Some good options are from the 7xx Nvidia GPU family, the GT730 (DDR5 Version), GT740 (DDR5) and GTX 750, but even then you have to make sure that you are able to return it back if it doesn't work. Good luck.

EDIT: One last issue is your PSU which doesn't seem to be capable of supporting a 75W+ GPU. It may not even have a PCIe power plug. So be careful with it. It's an old generic unit and you should't try to overload it. It may not even be a 450W unit. In reality it may only be a 250-300W unit. What GPU were you using before? Having said all that this PSU is probably able to handle a GT 1030, GT 730 and GT 740 but only if it is at least a 300W unit and it's in good condition.

 

[Nick Kitson]

You can't be certain whether it will work or not. Theoretically it should work, however in reality you are looking more at 50-50. The only way is to install it in your system in order to know for sure.

Your mobo only has a PCIe 16x 1.0 slot. The 1030 is a PCIe 3.0 card which is theoretically backwards compatible with older PCIe versions, but many have reported compatibility issue between PCIe 3.0 and older boards with PCIe 2.0/1.0, but most of them have been about PCIe 1.0 (like your board). On top of that your motherboard is also very old with a pretty much obsolete BIOS version that will certainly cause compatibility issues with new hardware.

So my advice would be to either get the 1030 but only if you have the option of returning it back if it doesn't work or try to find an older graphics card (most of them should be used), which will probably have fewer compatibility issues with your mobo. Some good options are from the 7xx Nvidia GPU family, the GT730 (DDR5 Version), GT740 (DDR5) and GTX 750, but even then you have to make sure that you are able to return it back if it doesn't work. Good luck.

EDIT. One last issue is your PSU which doesn't seem to be capable of supporting a 75W+ GPU. It may not even have a PCIe power plug. So be careful with it. It's an old generic unit and you should't try to overload it. It may not even be a 450W unit. It may in reality be a 250-300W unit. What GPU were you using before?

The card I recently had is Gt 730 DDR3 version but it got old and broke thats why I wanted to replace it with the next budget card like the 1030. What compatibility issues are we talking about here if granted that the card works on my motherboard?

 

[gingerrankin]

If before you had a GT 730 and it worked correctly, there is no reason why a GT 1030 does not work.

GT 1030 only consumes 30 watts and does not need your psu to have a pci-e connector

 

[kraelic]

If it works then there is no issue, but the issues that can come up are black screen/no output or a BIOS/UEFI incompatability.

I have an EVGA 1030 GT that works in a gateway sx sff e5800 socket 775 system but I think that is pci express 2.0

Only consider GDDR5 variants of the GT 1030, the DDR4 models are half performance.

A 750 TI might have a better chance of working and slightly outperforms the 30W 1030GT GDDR5 versions, but like a full 75W slot.


Edit: your motherboard is also pci express 2.0, with a x16 slot and an x1 slot, so there should be no problems. There are some really cheap OEM pc that do not support more than 25W on a pci express slot. Your ASUS is not one of those.

 

[Nick Kitson]

If before you had a GT 730 and it worked correctly, there is no reason why a GT 1030 does not work.

GT 1030 only consumes 30 watts and does not need your psu to have a pci-e connector

Thank you for the response. I hope more people reply on this thread so I can guarantee it's safe then I will buy it.

 

[Nick Kitson]

If it works then there is no issue, but the issues that can come up are black screen/no output or a BIOS/UEFI incompatability.

I have an EVGA 1030 GT that works in a gateway sx sff e5800 socket 775 system but I think that is pci express 2.0

Only consider GDDR5 variants of the GT 1030, the DDR4 models are half performance.

A 750 TI might have a better chance of working and slightly outperforms the 30W 1030GT GDDR5 versions, but like a full 75W slot.

The expansion slot listed on the ASUS website is this:

1 x PCIe x16
1 x PCIe x1
2 x PCI

and other website say its PCIe 2.0. How do you actually read that? I can't know for sure

 

[Nick Kitson]

EDIT: One last issue is your PSU which doesn't seem to be capable of supporting a 75W+ GPU. It may not even have a PCIe power plug. So be careful with it. It's an old generic unit and you should't try to overload it. It may not even be a 450W unit. In reality it may only be a 250-300W unit. What GPU were you using before? Having said all that this PSU is probably able to handle a GT 1030, GT 730 and GT 740 but only if it is at least a 300W unit and it's in good condition.

My recent graphics card is a Gt 730 DDR3 and it works just fine. The other one user replied in this thread that the Gt 1030 doesn't need a pci-e connector on my power supply though

EDIT: I have a 450watt true rated power supply sir

 

[kraelic]

I made a mistake, the spec is 1.1 the x38 had 2.0, I was thinking all 30s from intel was 2.0, guess it was the x48 p45 g41 maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#History_and_revisions

The 1030 gt uses only four lanes for data, and that would be four lanes in a x16 1.1 socket at a data rate of a 3.0 x1 link.
A full 16 lanes of 1.1 has bandwidth equal to 8 lanes of 2.0 or 4 lanes of 3.0.
If you select a 750 TI instead it would have all 16 lanes equal to the 3.0 x4 link.

There is a bit of performance lost, but if you were happy with the 730, the 750 TI or the 1030 GT should be a good upgrade for you.

 

[Nick Kitson]

I made a mistake, the spec is 1.1 the x38 had 2.0, I was thinking all 30s from intel was 2.0, guess it was the x48 p45 g41 maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#History_and_revisions

The 1030 gt uses only four lanes for data, and that would be four lanes in a x16 1.1 socket at a data rate of a 3.0 x1 link.
A full 16 lanes of 1.1 has bandwidth equal to 8 lanes of 2.0 or 4 lanes of 3.0.
If you select a 750 TI instead it would have all 16 lanes equal to the 3.0 x4 link.

There is a bit of performance lost, but if you were happy with the 730, the 750 TI or the 1030 GT should be a good upgrade for you.

Im sorry but you lost me here. I can't undestand all these terms you are saying, haha

Edit: Thank you for your answers and the computations, I will try to look it up. I will be happy for the extra fps I can get with the 1030.

 

[kraelic]

I was listing intel chipsets
X38 was high end, with 2.0 pci express
P35 and your board G31 is 1.1 pci express

I think the next versions went to 2.0
X48 high end and P45 mainstream.

I know 3.0 came out with 3rd gen I series in P67 and Z68 revision motherboards.

 

[kraelic]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&Description=gt%201030&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

See the DDR4 or D4 in the descriptions? Avoid those.
The full Size card with gddr5? That one or one like it is what you want.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814932004 Full size card with GDDR5
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP5UA8947 Low profile single slot cooling with GDDR5, see the D5 in the part number?

 

[Nick Kitson]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&Description=gt%201030&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

See the DDR4 or D4 in the descriptions? Avoid those.
The full Size card with gddr5? That one or one like it is what you want.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814932004 Full size card with GDDR5
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP5UA8947 Low profile single slot cooling with GDDR5, see the D5 in the part number?

Yes, thank you for the tip! What exactly am I avoiding if i get the one with D4? Anyway here's the link of the 1030 that I will buy - https://dynaquestpc.com/products/palit-gt-1030-2gb

 

[kraelic]

Literally the DDR4 version is half the performance of a GDDR5 card, but not half priced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CazEXejPCU

 

[Nick Kitson]

Literally the DDR4 version is half the performance of a GDDR5 card, but not half priced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CazEXejPCU

Okay, thank you very much! I think I'm done here.