[SOLVED] 10yr old comp just bit the dust. What can I reuse?

[rusty_shackleford]

Hi all,

My computer finally ate it and won't even power on now. I would assume it's the PSU (recently had a bad electrical storm with power flickering on and off) but I'm also tired of playing CSGO at 40fps so figured now would be a good time to upgrade other components as well. I've been out of the loop for a while and I'm sure there's been advancements and/or compatibility issues with new hardware. I'm hoping I can keep the mobo and just replace CPU, GPU and PSU but that is why I am here. I mostly play CSGO still but that's because of how limited I was. Would like to be able to play some more modern games and somewhat "future proof" it. Looking for advice on what I can re-use and hopefully put that money towards better components. I would like to stay around 500 if possible but have room to stretch if it's worth it. $1000 is absolute max. Wedding and baby on the way so cant get crazy. If anyone has any recommendations it would be much appreciated.

Here's what I'm currently working with:
Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157293?Item=N82E16813157293

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W BX80637I53570K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-3rd-gen-core-i5-3570k/p/N82E16819116504?Item=N82E16819116504

GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7850 DirectX 11 100355OCL 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-hd-7850-100355ocl/p/N82E16814102999?Item=N82E16814102999

PSU: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Active PFC Power Supply

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler, 4 CDC Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151
https://www.newegg.com/cooler-maste...0pk-r2/p/N82E16835103099?Item=N82E16835103099

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-8gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820231445?Item=N82E16820231445

SSD (recently upgraded):
Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)

Case: will be purchasing new

ETA: Everything still works when it does power on but I'm having a hell of a time getting it to even do that. I have to unplug it, plug it back in, jam the power button a few times, jiggle some wires, and do a dance. When and if it turns on it works just fine in all its 40fps glory so I know the components are still operable. Which leads me to believe the power supply is the problem.

 

[kanewolf]

Hi all,

My computer finally ate it and won't even power on now. I would assume it's the PSU (recently had a bad electrical storm with power flickering on and off) but I'm also tired of playing CSGO at 40fps so figured now would be a good time to upgrade other components as well. I've been out of the loop for a while and I'm sure there's been advancements and/or compatibility issues with new hardware. I'm hoping I can keep the mobo and just replace CPU, GPU and PSU but that is why I am here. I mostly play CSGO still but that's because of how limited I was. Would like to be able to play some more modern games and somewhat "future proof" it. Looking for advice on what I can re-use and hopefully put that money towards better components. I would like to stay around 500 if possible but have room to stretch if it's worth it. $1000 is absolute max. Wedding and baby on the way so cant get crazy. If anyone has any recommendations it would be much appreciated.

Here's what I'm currently working with:
Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157293?Item=N82E16813157293

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W BX80637I53570K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-3rd-gen-core-i5-3570k/p/N82E16819116504?Item=N82E16819116504

GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7850 DirectX 11 100355OCL 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-hd-7850-100355ocl/p/N82E16814102999?Item=N82E16814102999

PSU: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Active PFC Power Supply

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler, 4 CDC Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151
https://www.newegg.com/cooler-maste...0pk-r2/p/N82E16835103099?Item=N82E16835103099

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-8gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820231445?Item=N82E16820231445

SSD (recently upgraded):
Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)

Case: will be purchasing new

You can save the SSD. I would replace everything else. A 10 year old power supply may still work but I would recommend replacement.

 

[USAFRet]

Keep the 860 EVO.
Replace everything else.

 

[punkncat]

Nothing to be wrong with that Hyper 212 either, but that's a rather small potatoes aspect cost wise.

I would do some minor troubleshooting with a known good PSU to see (particularly) if that motherboard lived through it. That could fetch a decent price on it's own.

In theory if it still works you "could" find a cheapo 3770(k) and upgrade into the 1660 realm on your GPU and it should still play favorably. It is a bit of a waste to spend money "upgrading" that rig when you could put the same money to a new chip that will perform better.

 

[kanewolf]

Nothing to be wrong with that Hyper 212 either, but that's a rather small potatoes aspect cost wise.

I would do some minor troubleshooting with a known good PSU to see (particularly) if that motherboard lived through it. That could fetch a decent price on it's own.

In theory if it still works you "could" find a cheapo 3770(k) and upgrade into the 1660 realm on your GPU and it should still play favorably. It is a bit of a waste to spend money "upgrading" that rig when you could put the same money to a new chip that will perform better.

The problem with keeping the Hyper212 is that you may not have the proper mounting hardware for the new socket. Getting a new cooler with ALL the proper hardware is much less frustrating than getting everything built and realizing your cooler won't mount because you are missing some silly screws.

 

[logainofhades]

The problem with keeping the Hyper212 is that you may not have the proper mounting hardware for the new socket. Getting a new cooler with ALL the proper hardware is much less frustrating than getting everything built and realizing your cooler won't mount because you are missing some silly screws.

If they stay Intel, it is reusable. The socket mounting system hasn't changed, on mainstream, since lga 1156 was introduced. AMD would require a new mounting bracket.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Thank you all for the input so far. I know everyone is recommending replace everything except the SSD but does anyone see any issues with keeping the motherboard and replacing the cpu, gpu, psu and ram?

 

[USAFRet]

Thank you all for the input so far. I know everyone is recommending replace everything except the SSD but does anyone see any issues with keeping the motherboard and replacing the cpu, gpu, psu and ram?

And you'd be on (mostly) the same performance as it is now.
You could put an i7-3770k on that motherboard, but thats as high as you can go.

 

[logainofhades]

No sense in sticking money into a dead platform. You have the budget to get a really solid system, with an actual upgrade path.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Silicon Power A60 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $874.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-08 12:43 EDT-0400

 

[tennis2]

Thank you all for the input so far. I know everyone is recommending replace everything except the SSD but does anyone see any issues with keeping the motherboard and replacing the cpu, gpu, psu and ram?

You haven't figured out the culprit of your failure. I'd bet a new PSU would have you back up and running. Start with that, since nobody here is going to recommend keeping your current PSU.

If you can get an i7-3770 (non-K) for cheap (I got mine for $50) you can overclock it. But that only kicks the can down the road another year, or 2 years max. Don't forget, this is an 8 year old platform.

With a budget of up to $1000 (are you shopping in the USA?), keeping the Ivy Bridge platform seems like a waste.

A new GPU is warranted regardless of whether or not you resurrect the existing system or build a new one.

I mean:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB GAMING X Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $878.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-08 13:06 EDT-0400


What monitor do you have?

I don't play CS:GO, but I know it runs on a potato. Is your monitor plugged into the GPU or to the display outputs attached to the motherboard around the rear USB ports?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

No sense in sticking money into a dead platform. You have the budget to get a really solid system, with an actual upgrade path.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Silicon Power A60 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $874.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-08 12:43 EDT-0400

Very true. I guess I was hoping it wasn't dead and I wouldnt have to reinstall windows and go through all of that lol Should have figured with the way tech is advancing and with this being so old. Thank you for the list! Looks like i have a lot of reading to do

 

[rusty_shackleford]

You haven't figured out the culprit of your failure. I'd bet a new PSU would have you back up and running. Start with that, since nobody here is going to recommend keeping your current PSU.

If you can get an i7-3770 (non-K) for cheap (I got mine for $50) you can overclock it. But that only kicks the can down the road another year, or 2 years max. Don't forget, this is an 8 year old platform.

With a budget of up to $1000 (are you shopping in the USA?), keeping the Ivy Bridge platform seems like a waste.

A new GPU is warranted regardless of whether or not you resurrect the existing system or build a new one.

What monitor do you have?

I don't play CS:GO, but I know it runs on a potato. Is your monitor plugged into the GPU or to the display outputs attached to the motherboard around the rear USB ports?

Yes shopping in the US. The fans for my GPU broke off and are currently resting on the bottom of the case lol so yea that's definitely on the list. It's been through 4 or 5 moves across different states, case is cracked etc. I guess I'm just cheap and trying to re-use old parts would be kicking the can down the road like you mentioned. Monitors are 2 Samsung S23B300B i got for free that my old job was throwing out. theyre plugged into the gpu
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-s23b300b-23/p/N82E16824001546

 

[neojack]

if you want a working computer on the cheap, get

PSU : new (can't go wrong with it, as you could reuse it anyways) 650w to 850w from the upper side of the tier list (850w is better if you ever plan to get a high powered gpu)
also, PSUs with headroom lasts longer

GPU : something like a used rX480 can be find for like 100$ and gives good 1080p perfs. also it's still supported by the last drivers. i don't think your 7850 is still supported. if you get bugs in new games, they should be gone with the rx480.
check on the local ads (craig's list etc), or ebay

as said @tennis2 , a used i7-3770 at 50$ is possible.

you'll get 60 fps on CSgo 1080p with that. total 300$ ish. best bang for the buck
my wife has a rx480 and we play star citizen together, totally fine

happy wedding !

 

[Ralston18]

Any reason for not re-using the existing case?

No problem with the "picked" case per se.

However, I am just wondering if the older case (granted, sight unseen) might be stronger, better built, etc..

Could save you a few dollars if the older case will support the new build components.

Likely there are trade-offs involved and that is understood.

Still felt compelled to ask.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Any reason for not re-using the existing case?

No problem with the "picked" case per se.

However, I am just wondering if the older case (granted, sight unseen) might be stronger, better built, etc..

Could save you a few dollars if the older case will support the new build components.

Likely there are trade-offs involved and that is understood.

Still felt compelled to ask.

When I first got the case I had my cousin put it all together because he knew how to do it. Well I left it there over night and some how the access door got bent and the plexi glass broke so i've been living with it lookin all janky for the better part of a decade. Also now the lights dont work and I'm at a point in my life where I can afford 75 bucks for a new case or whatever it is.

It just so happens that I have a good friend that plays(ed) CSGO and Valorant professionally that's going to sell me his spare Alienware for $500 w/ a 980Ti so that should do me for the time being.