Question 12600k CPU temps higher after applying XMP ?

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Hello all

So I have been having decreased FPS in a lot of games for awhile now. Even posted about it a little while back but kind of dealt with it and lowered graphic settings in games and such.

Well I was doing some BIOs updates the other day and realized my 3000mhz ram was only set to the default 2133mhz. Turned on XMP and now running at 3000mhz as it should and finally fixed my fps issues! Jumped 15-20fps in starfield, 30-60fps in MW3, etc. It was amazing how much of a difference. My CPU was seeming to be bottle necked running at 80-90% with my gpu at 60-70% until I did that, almost considering upgrading my 12600k. So glad I didnt waste that money.
Feel totally stupid for missing that

But the concern I have now is my CPU temps. Before idle was 28-34 C. Now idle is not bad at 32-35 C.
But when I play games now I reach the 80s C and have seen a quick 90s C here and there.
Should I be concerned about this? Ambient temp in the room is 20-23 C
I do have about a 4-5 year old 240mm Corsair H100i cpu cooler.
What do you guys think? are these temps okay? should I upgrade to a 360mm cooler?
 
Phaaze88 said:
I used one of those. Great case.


Umm, why rather, where is this extra fan located in relation the rad? Which one is closer to the front case fans?
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Yeah it’s been a great case.

And the top of the case(which is a vent) is the exact size of a 360mm radiator, so instead of just having an empty part of the top case I had an extra 120mm fan I threw up there right next to the radiator.
And the radiator plus its attached fans are connected directly next to the two large intake fans. So the cool air hits the radiator and its fans before that extra exhaust fan, if that’s what you were asking. The extra exhaust fan is in the back top left corner, right above that rear exhaust fan
 
Tiebar90 said:
And the top of the case(which is a vent) is the exact size of a 360mm radiator, so instead of just having an empty part of the top case I had an extra 120mm fan I threw up there right next to the radiator.
And the radiator plus its attached fans are connected directly next to the two large intake fans. So the cool air hits the radiator and its fans before that extra exhaust fan, if that’s what you were asking. The extra exhaust fan is in the back top left corner, right above that rear exhaust fan
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Ok. I wanted to be sure. I have seen the reverse of that.


Monitor the clock speeds of all your cores. Hwinfo is usually the go-to app for that.
This is to see if your mobo is running a needless all core overclock. Some boards run them out the box, or with the optimized default.
The telltale should be all the P/E cores running at the same frequency.
 
Phaaze88 said:
Ok. I wanted to be sure. I have seen the reverse of that.


Monitor the clock speeds of all your cores. Hwinfo is usually the go-to app for that.
This is to see if your mobo is running a needless all core overclock. Some boards run them out the box, or with the optimized default.
The telltale should be all the P/E cores running at the same frequency.
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I do use HW monitor to monitor parts of my computer it is a great app.
Here is the information I think you are asking for?
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ohio_buckeye said:
You sure the aio is working? My 12600kf stays around 60 using the Thermalright peerless assassin at least under cinebench and Intel burn test.
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so the RGB on the cpu mount is on. I imagine its working. How do I check officially?
The temps were no different before I turned on XMP. They were steady in the temps I mentioned about pre-XMP.
I could not tell you how long I had that ram set to 2133mhz by mistake though. So maybe my cooler is actually shot and I just didnt notice because the CPU wasnt being used as much? I am not sure
 
Check in the bios and set your cpu fan speed to high assuming your pump is plugged in there and see if it changes. Also you should be able to touch the hoses too and from the pump and see if they are warm or not. If they are warm that should mean it is working if I’m not mistaken.
 
ohio_buckeye said:
Check in the bios and set your cpu fan speed to high assuming your pump is plugged in there and see if it changes. Also you should be able to touch the hoses too and from the pump and see if they are warm or not. If they are warm that should mean it is working if I’m not mistaken.
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the cooler is definitely working as it is warm to the touch and i launched a game and it got warmer. One of the two hoses to the radiator stays much cooler than the other though. is that normal?
 
Tiebar90 said:
Ambient temp in the room is 20-23 C
I do have about a 4-5 year old 240mm Corsair H100i cpu cooler.
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These are your issues as far as I can suggest. Cooler 4-5 years with an AOI is actually very good. They normally degrade during that time, or stop working properly. You really need to consider changing this soon.

Your room temp is high. Typically you can expect your CPU to be about 10-15c (sometimes more) over ambient. This matches with your new idle temps. They will prob get worse over time.

The 80-90 in gaming loads, isn't atypical. It's actually more the norm with 12th/13th Gen Intel chips. However I'd suspect the cooler isn't sufficient any more which is why load temps are increasing too.
 
Tiebar90 said:
I do use HW monitor to monitor parts of my computer it is a great app.
Here is the information I think you are asking for?
ibb.co

cpu-speed hosted at ImgBB

Image cpu-speed hosted in ImgBB
ibb.co ibb.co
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Oh yeah, there's an all core overclock in the works.

Intel® Core™ i5-12600K Processor (20M Cache, up to 4.90 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i5-12600K Processor (20M Cache, up to 4.90 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.
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The P and E cores are all running 100mhz over spec... plus knowing that auto OCs are aggressive, I suggest going into bios and disabling it. I believe it's called OC Genie on Msi boards?
If that's already off, check if you're running Msi Dragon Center. Last I remember, that app 'optimized' performance by default - an OC.

Tiebar90 said:
One of the two hoses to the radiator stays much cooler than the other though. is that normal?
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No. If it's like that under load, that's the opposite of normal.
I guess this unit's time is up.

Roland Of Gilead said:
Your room temp is high. Typically you can expect your CPU to be about 10-15c (sometimes more) over ambient. This matches with your new idle temps. They will prob get worse over time.
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That range is around the norm for my room...
 
Tiebar90 said:
Hello all

So I have been having decreased FPS in a lot of games for awhile now. Even posted about it a little while back but kind of dealt with it and lowered graphic settings in games and such.

Well I was doing some BIOs updates the other day and realized my 3000mhz ram was only set to the default 2133mhz. Turned on XMP and now running at 3000mhz as it should and finally fixed my fps issues! Jumped 15-20fps in starfield, 30-60fps in MW3, etc. It was amazing how much of a difference. My CPU was seeming to be bottle necked running at 80-90% with my gpu at 60-70% until I did that, almost considering upgrading my 12600k. So glad I didnt waste that money.
Feel totally stupid for missing that

But the concern I have now is my CPU temps. Before idle was 28-34 C. Now idle is not bad at 32-35 C.
But when I play games now I reach the 80s C and have seen a quick 90s C here and there.
Should I be concerned about this? Ambient temp in the room is 20-23 C
I do have about a 4-5 year old 240mm Corsair H100i cpu cooler.
What do you guys think? are these temps okay? should I upgrade to a 360mm cooler?
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Most AIO liquid lasts around 5 years. It's hard to tell how accurate that is, considering I've been running an old AIO on a delid i7 8900k for about 7 years, and the liquid is fine. But the "average" is about 5 years. Also, Gen 12-13 and probably now the 14th intel gen runs HOT. The IHS is also slightly bowed which is impossible to see, but most people require what is called a 'pressure plate' to get a smooth contact on the heat sync.

I'm running an i9 13900k and before the plate I was running into thermal throttling at 100% load. With the plate I'm running at mid 80's under full load. (Gen 12-14 has a Tmax of 100C)

Also, per intel, anything in the 13th gen or later requires a 360mm. The temps are just too high.

XMP can have negatives and positives. It automatically does the voltage for you, and voltage is the one key thing that decides how hot it runs. If your vcore is anything higher that 1.4, you're going way too high. You should be in the 1.25-1.34 range. Most modern motherboards have multiple XMP settings, but if its running at 80C after XMP, it's setting the voltage way too high. My i7 runs at 5.3Ghz with a voltage of 1.35 with a max of 83C under full load. If i changed that voltage to 1.4, it throttles over 100C.
 
Also, when you said one tube on the AIO is hotter than another, it indicates to me that the AIO was installed incorrectly. The two tubes recycle water to eachother, meaning you should ALWAYS have the tubes mounted in a position where the tubes drop from the top or front/back of the case, where the water goes 'down'. If one tube is hotter than another, than what happened was you have water locked into one spot, and it can't recycle into the other tube. Which I'm guessing the way your AIO is set up, the tubes go up to the CPU, not down.
 
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