128GB BDXL Blu-ray Disc Specification Finalized

[Marcus Yam]

Quad layers gets you more space on the same sized disc.

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[asdf634]

I'm sorry, where's the article? I can only see the girl...

Seriously though, not compatible with current players? No thanks.

...unless it's cheap (or comes with the girl)

 

[babachoo]

PS4 will probably have BDXL and Xbox720 will probably feature some crappy BDXL cloned format that only lasts 3 months, kinda like PS3 BD versus Xbox 360 and its HD-DVD. Personally I think 128GB is impressive. And let's compare the cost of a single BDXL disc to a 128GB flash drive. __-_-_-__ seems to think that this will fail and that a 128GB flash drive would somehow be cheaper than a cheap disc. I think he's insane.

 

[walt526]

How long would it take to write 128GB worth of data onto a BR compared to an hard drive? That would seem to be the biggest obstacle to them being used in data archiving.

 

[babachoo]

How long would it take to write 128GB worth of data onto a BR compared to an hard drive? That would seem to be the biggest obstacle to them being used in data archiving.

That's why people use external HDD's and RAID for data backup. You wouldn't back up your 1TB hard drive with dvds or blurays, but you could certainly pack some movies onto them and take them around with you or share them.

 

[Parsian]

Still the Blu Ray disks/Writers are expensive... I am young but did it take this long for DVD writers to drop in price?

 

[babachoo]

Still the Blu Ray disks/Writers are expensive... I am young but did it take this long for DVD writers to drop in price?

Bluray writers are pretty much just now hitting the market. But they've already dropped in price quite a bit.

 

[nxym]

expense is not the problem. if bdxl is not compatible with the current hardware, are we to just throw the current players to the dustbin for the sake of bdxl compatible players

 

[matt87_50]

oh thank god! for a second there I was afraid I'd have to split my porn collection across TWO disks!!

"Because the new media specifications are extensions of current Blu-ray Disc technologies, future BDXL capable recorders can easily be designed to play back existing 25GB and 50GB Blu-ray Disc formats, but current laser hardware aren't compatible with the newer media."

so effectively, this format is as different from original BD as BD is from dvd...

I guess they are trying to make it seem like they are the same so as to not look like they are introducing yet another impractical and obsolete laser disk media, when real time read AND write, high capacity AND higher density hdd are available, almost certainly FOR CHEAPER per gigabyte than these use once disks.

 

[Pyroflea]

I think in order for it to catch on it would have had to be compatible with current devices. Still pretty cool that they can squeeze that much data onto a single BL Disk.

 

[xxyyzz]

REALLY?

 

[HalfHuman]

if you ask me they could make them 1tb and i would still not be impressed. my most capable optical drive is a dvdrw (on my desktop) and it will probably remain that way. i use it less than one time a month. optical disks are obsolete. blurays are a joke when it comes to price. disks occupy too much space, are too fragile, too slow. when i bought my acer aspire timeline 13,3" i looked for something that lacked optical drive, modem and discrete vid card. seems i have to live with the vid card but the optical drive missing makes my lappie some hundreds of grams lighter and much slimmer.

let's get over optical drives. one can use a bunch of mechanical hdds, usb penflash drives, online storage. think also about the bunch of usless dvds and cds that take up space and have no use.

 

[Tamz_msc]

CDs/DVDs/Blu-ray discs will get outdated very soon, with so many people switching over to External HDDs/ USB drives, no matter how much you increase capacity.

 

[babachoo]

if you ask me they could make them 1tb and i would still not be impressed. my most capable optical drive is a dvdrw (on my desktop) and it will probably remain that way. i use it less than one time a month. optical disks are obsolete. blurays are a joke when it comes to price. disks occupy too much space, are too fragile, too slow. when i bought my acer aspire timeline 13,3" i looked for something that lacked optical drive, modem and discrete vid card. seems i have to live with the vid card but the optical drive missing makes my lappie some hundreds of grams lighter and much slimmer.

let's get over optical drives. one can use a bunch of mechanical hdds, usb penflash drives, online storage. think also about the bunch of usless dvds and cds that take up space and have no use.

A laptop that you can't do anything on other than read email is a much bigger waste of space than a little bluray disc. And really, if you wanted a tiny little screen to browse the web, why not just get an Iphone or netbook, since you're so concerned with saving space? It's not like a 13" screen at 768 is watchable without having to clean off breath smudges from having to sit that close to the screen to be able to see anything.

 

[rocket_sauce]

I just want them to put entire tv seasons onto one disk

 

[marsax73]

[citation][nom]Tamz_msc[/nom]CDs/DVDs/Blu-ray discs will get outdated very soon, with so many people switching over to External HDDs/ USB drives, no matter how much you increase capacity.[/citation]

I agree. I have Raid 1 on my media drive. 128 gigs is nothing when you think 2 TB drives are becoming the norm.

 

[Hupiscratch]

I think it's the beginning for 4k/2k movies. Now we have to wait for the TVs.

 

[back_by_demand]

128GB BDXL Blu-ray Disc Specification Finalized

Let me fix that for ya

In a desperate bid to be relevant, 128GB BDXL Blu-ray Disc Specification Finalized

That's better.

If all people do is pop down the shops and buy a movie, they don't really care what the capacity is they just want to put it in and watch it. So as far as once-only recordable media is concerned, 128gb is simply laughable. In an age where recordable media is being outstripped in every area by flashdrives, SSDs and SD cards we should dump rotating disks to the history bin. I have already said in previous posts that BluRay will be the last optical disk format and I stand by the statement. Eventually someone will make a decision to manufacture a player with a simple memory card reader, like SD, and movies will be distibuted on the same format. It wouldn't be rocket science, lower production, packaging, warehousing and shipping costs. Smaller footprint at point of sale and no issues with compatability - backwards or forwards - and even better they don't scratch.

Movies on memory cards - FTW.

 

[Camikazi]

Every time those girls show up as the pic for articles, I forget to read the articles

 

[ravewulf]

Hopefully when these come out the first generation Blu-Ray burners and media will drop in price. Course I'd still rather get another hard drive instead, but we'll see.

 

[tokenz]

[citation][nom]babachoo[/nom]Bluray writers are pretty much just now hitting the market. But they've already dropped in price quite a bit.[/citation]

But this is a new spec. So new writers. More capacity and higher cost. I just wish they would complete the spec, or that bluray would die off completely. For instance the 3d crap. So now I have to buy another bluray player when I just spend 200 on the one I have now. Its total bs. I know the 128 is used for managed backups, but its the same thing. I think I will just stick with hard drives. (they're cheaper in the long run to)

 

[Regulas]

I still say Blue Ray should have used a caddy system. Think of it as a big UMD or Floppy disk. It would not have made it much larger but sure as hell would have protected the disk. At this new density any minor scratch, dirt will destroy (unreadable) allot of data. Why do you think they hermetically seal hard drives.
Again, it boils down to $$.

 

[Regulas]

[citation][nom]Parsian[/nom]Still the Blu Ray disks/Writers are expensive... I am young but did it take this long for DVD writers to drop in price?[/citation]
I remember when the first CD machines came out and cost over $1,000. That was long ago so at today's prices that would be over $2,000.

 

[quantum mask]

[citation][nom]HalfHuman[/nom]if you ask me they could make them 1tb and i would still not be impressed. my most capable optical drive is a dvdrw (on my desktop) and it will probably remain that way. i use it less than one time a month. optical disks are obsolete. blurays are a joke when it comes to price. disks occupy too much space, are too fragile, too slow. when i bought my acer aspire timeline 13,3" i looked for something that lacked optical drive, modem and discrete vid card. seems i have to live with the vid card but the optical drive missing makes my lappie some hundreds of grams lighter and much slimmer.let's get over optical drives. one can use a bunch of mechanical hdds, usb penflash drives, online storage. think also about the bunch of usless dvds and cds that take up space and have no use.[/citation]
byte for byte, an optical disk is always going to be cheaper than flash and take up less space than an HDD. Optical disks will be around for a while.

 

[quantum mask]

[citation][nom]Tamz_msc[/nom]CDs/DVDs/Blu-ray discs will get outdated very soon, with so many people switching over to External HDDs/ USB drives, no matter how much you increase capacity.[/citation]
That won't happen for a while for one simple reason - They're cheap. If your friend wants some files off your computer, are you just going to give him you HDD or your USB drive. I don't think so. You're gonna burn that sucker a 10 cent CD or a 25 cent DVD. Don't forget about music. Even though most cars nowadays have lots of options for playing music (ie. HDD, FM tranmitter, flash drive) a lot of people still use CDs. It'll be a while before they disappear because they're so cheap to manufacture.