Question 13900K high temps ?

[Naujoks]

I just got myself a i9 13900K but I'm getting very high temps with it.
It's in the high 50s during web browsing and hits 100C during gaming and Cinebench R23, resulting in throttling and the CPU never hitting the max MHz.
I'm using a "be quiet!" air cooled heatsink (rated for 150 TDP) and various case fans. They're running at full blast under load.
When starting Cinebench, the CPU reaches 100C immediately.
As far as I can tell I have correctly installed the heatsink and I used good quality thermal paste.
In the attached picture there's two windows, one for temps at idle and one running Cinebench:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Iu-QM60HMm1WaV8dRX7OJYnSwsMcoPR/view?usp=sharing
Is an air cooled heatsink really not able to keep the temps low enough or could there be some other reason for this issue?

 

[Lafong]

Some would say its a feature rather than an issue.

How much throttling do you see when you use the PC for its intended purpose? I assume it wasn't to run Cinebench.

 

[Naujoks]

So if the question is how does it "feel" to use the PC then the answer is: it's fine.
Games like Cyberpunk 2077 run at good framerates.

 

[thestryker]

You've answered your own question. Out of the box the 13900K will turbo up to 253W and your cooler is rated for 150W.

 

[uWebb429]

I'm using a "be quiet!" air cooled heatsink

That cooler is a mistake if maximum performance from a 13900K is your goal. These CPUs are like ovens. They are difficult to keep from thermal throttling even with high end AIO water cooling.

 

[pete_101]

I wouldn't try cooling this with a small air cooler.

 

[TerryLaze]

I wouldn't try cooling this with a small air cooler.

It's fine as long as you don't expect any overclocking.
The 13900k has a Processor Base Power (formerly known as TDP) of 125 W, maximum turbo is not officially overclocking, but it is overclocking.

I just got myself a i9 13900K but I'm getting very high temps with it.

Go into your bios and lock the PL1 and PL2 to 150W, or whatever W gives you piece of mind or the sound level you like or whatever.
You won't even lose any noticeable performance.

In gaming it's like 1% between full power and 125W.

Core i9-13900K, i7-13700K & i5-13600K: Gaming-Könige im Test: Benchmarks in Games

Intel Raptor Lake im Test: Benchmarks in Games / Leistung in Spielen (720p, RTX 3090 Ti) / CPU-Gaming-Leistung im absoluten CPU-Limit

www.computerbase.de

 

[geofelt]

13th gen does run hot, but it is designed to do so to get the max performance.
Modern motherboards defaults are to go for max performance.
It will hit 100c, regardless of the cpu cooler.
You might want to read this article on running 13900K with budget coolers.

Core i9-13900K Cooling Guide: Testing Intel's Flagship With Budget Air and Big AIOs

The Core i9-13900K can push even the most capable liquid coolers to their limits, but you don’t lose that much performance if you go with budget-priced air cooling.

www.tomshardware.com

Yes, a better cooler will help, but not as much as you may think,
Here is similar info on gaming:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc

 

[Naujoks]

This is all very interesting.
I have to confess that I had no idea what kind of nettles I would get myself into with this.
I have lots of things to consider and decisions to make now.
Meanwhile I'm wondering how Apple manages to keep its M2 so powerful yet cool...