[SOLVED] 144hz 2k gaming requirements?

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Simple question; I just need a good idea of what I would be looking for here

If I wanted to run AAA games with no drops below say about 85 fps on 2k, what kind of specs would I be looking at?
 
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Need a decent graphics card to handle the frames and a decent cpu to supply the frames.

2600x can supply enough frames between 100~144, depending on the graphics card and games. If you look at benchmarks you'll get an idea how new cards perform relative to older cards. Keep in mind graphics settings and game's you'll be running.

Ryzen 3rd gen is almost here so maybe wait if you haven't already bought 2600x? It might be possible to reuse your motherboard with 3rd gen but a chance might need to upgrade mobo, not sure yet. Albeit if haven't updated bios yet, will need to do so before installing 2600x. Rumours say 3rd gen's IPC work is going to be improved and with that brings better minimum fps.

For 1440p upto 144fps, minimum being a...

Aeacus

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Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($268.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($99.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($123.54 @ PCM)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($359.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-OMEGA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Ultra Titanium 650 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($157.90 @ B&H)
Total: $1506.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Note: PC case is personal choice and pick the one you like the most.
 
Simple question; I just need a good idea of what I would bee looking for here

If I wanted to run AAA games with no drops below say about 85 fps on 2k, what kind of specs would I be looking at?


So that's 1440P not dropping below 85 FPS?

You will need a machine for that and an RTX 2080 or RTX 2080Ti.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($418.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($181.92 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($115.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Dell)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card ($759.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Ultra Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.00 @ B&H)
Total: $1934.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You will need a machine for that and an RTX 2080 or RTX 2080Ti.
Those GPUs are overkill for 1440P 85+ FPS build and waste of money. With RTX 2080 (Ti), you're looking 4K 120+ FPS.

For 1440p 85+ FPS, GTX 1660 Ti would be more than enough. But since it doesn't have Tensor cores and doesn't support ray tracing, RTX 2060 would be more future proof option.

Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1660 Ti is the card to beat for high-refresh gaming at 1920 x 1080 and solid performance at 2560 x 1440 (1440p), delivering frame rates similar to the previous-generation GeForce GTX 1070.

Stepping up to the GeForce RTX 2060 will get you higher frame rates at 1440p, while also bringing the company’s Tensor/RT cores to the table. But with a tiny number of current games supporting those features, the 2060 doesn’t look as good in our performance-per-dollar charts, making the 1660 Ti a better value for most 1080p-plus gamers.

That said, if you have a high-refresh 2K screen and / or are particularly excited about what DLSS and ray tracing will bring to more games in the coming months and years, the RTX 2060 is worth paying the extra $70 or so for.
source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html
 

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@Aeacus, what benchmarks have you seen that show a 2080Ti in AAA games being too much in 1440p?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Founders_Edition/15.html

From what i can see there are only few, most aren't even close to being overkill.

9700k or 9900k, preferably 9900k if it's affordable + 2080Ti for 1440p and highest frames possible without cpu usage stutters, forget 9600k. 16GB ram minimum, 32GB recommended. And of course an SSD to go with.

A Gsync monitor would also go nicely improving overall experience.
 
Those GPUs are overkill for 1440P 85+ FPS build and waste of money. With RTX 2080 (Ti), you're looking 4K 120+ FPS.

For 1440p 85+ FPS, GTX 1660 Ti would be more than enough. But since it doesn't have Tensor cores and doesn't support ray tracing, RTX 2060 would be more future proof option.


source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html

Here is my machine and Shadow Of The Tomb Raider at 1440P, 9900K, 32 GB of ram and GTX 1080TI... Settings shown before benchmark starts.... Just recorded it today with the current machine.

 

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A 1080ti is about the same as a 2080 right?

I have a 2070 and can tell you its not enough for high fps at 1440p in AAA games.

If you can afford a 2080ti its certainly not overkill on 1440p 144hz.
 

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Here is my machine and Shadow Of The Tomb Raider at 1440P, 9900K, 32 GB of ram and GTX 1080TI... Settings shown before benchmark starts.... Just recorded it today with the current machine.
It's easy to take one of the most GPU demanding games and show how low the FPS are with better performing GPU to fit your agenda. Thing is, not all games are created equally and RTX 2060 can do 85+ FPS @ 1440p with high/ultra settings on many of the games. And on games where RTX 2060 can't do 85+ FPS on high/ultra settings, lowering some of the settings can get 85+FPS out of the game with little to no impact on gaming experience.

Also, TechSpot did a review of RTX 2060 with 36 games tested @ 1440p with high/ultra settings,
link: https://www.techspot.com/review/1781-geforce-rtx-2060-mega-benchmark/

If you can afford a 2080ti its certainly not overkill on 1440p 144hz.
OP is looking 85+Hz @ 1440p and not 144Hz @ 1440p, there's a big difference.
 

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Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($268.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($99.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($123.54 @ PCM)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($359.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-OMEGA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Ultra Titanium 650 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($157.90 @ B&H)
Total: $1506.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-04 22:20 EST-0500


Note: PC case is personal choice and pick the one you like the most.
Let me rephrase my question. What components would I need to upgrade in my current system to get me no drops below 85 fps for the least amount of money?

My Build:

CPU: AMD
Ryzen 1400 (soon to be upgraded to a 2600x)
CPU Cooler: Wraith Spire
Motherboard: MSI B350 Bazooka
Memory: 16gb DDR4 3200mhz T-force Delta RGB
Storage: 500GB M.2 (forgot the brand and all other specs on it and I don't know how to look it up and I don't want to dig through my computer to look at it), and a 2TB 7200RPM HDD (either WD Black or Seagate Barracuda, can't remember which)
GPU: MSI RX 580 4GB
PSU: Corsair CX550M 80+ bronze (also soon to be upgraded)

I almost never buy pc parts new. You can find much cheaper used stuff on eBay, Craigslist, and FB Marketplace.
 

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Need a decent graphics card to handle the frames and a decent cpu to supply the frames.

2600x can supply enough frames between 100~144, depending on the graphics card and games. If you look at benchmarks you'll get an idea how new cards perform relative to older cards. Keep in mind graphics settings and game's you'll be running.

Ryzen 3rd gen is almost here so maybe wait if you haven't already bought 2600x? It might be possible to reuse your motherboard with 3rd gen but a chance might need to upgrade mobo, not sure yet. Albeit if haven't updated bios yet, will need to do so before installing 2600x. Rumours say 3rd gen's IPC work is going to be improved and with that brings better minimum fps.

For 1440p upto 144fps, minimum being a 1080Ti.
 
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byler47

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Need a decent graphics card to handle the frames and a decent cpu to supply the frames.

2600x can supply enough frames between 100~144, depending on the graphics card and games. If you look at benchmarks you'll get an idea how new cards perform relative to older cards. Keep in mind graphics settings and game's you'll be running.

Ryzen 3rd gen is almost here so maybe wait if you haven't already bought 2600x? It might be possible to reuse your motherboard with 3rd gen but a chance might need to upgrade mobo, not sure yet. Albeit if haven't updated bios yet, will need to do so before installing 2600x. Rumours say 3rd gen's IPC work is going to be improved and with that brings better minimum fps.

For 1440p upto 144fps, minimum being a 1080Ti.
I haven't bought the 2600x yet, but with the 3rd gen, I feel that it, like all new things are when they come out, will be a good bit more expensive. I currently don't have a whole lot of money to work with, and I'd be reselling my old components to afford the new ones. I'm considering delaying the 1440p thing for a few years, and getting a 144hz 1080p ultrawide instead. What do you think?
 

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Fair enough.

1080p ultrawide if you like this aspect, i don't see anything wrong with it.

Look at bench numbers for the list of games in 1080p here to see which graphics card is best for you. Rtx2060 is equiv to Gtx1080.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Founders_Edition/6.html

Bare in mind, the test setup is using an 8700k so expect a little less fps pairing higher end GPUs with a 2600x. 8700k's IPC is stronger so it allows a hungry graphics card to perform better.
 
Let me rephrase my question. What components would I need to upgrade in my current system to get me no drops below 85 fps for the least amount of money?

My Build:

CPU: AMD
Ryzen 1400 (soon to be upgraded to a 2600x)
CPU Cooler: Wraith Spire
Motherboard: MSI B350 Bazooka
Memory: 16gb DDR4 3200mhz T-force Delta RGB
Storage: 500GB M.2 (forgot the brand and all other specs on it and I don't know how to look it up and I don't want to dig through my computer to look at it), and a 2TB 7200RPM HDD (either WD Black or Seagate Barracuda, can't remember which)
GPU: MSI RX 580 4GB
PSU: Corsair CX550M 80+ bronze (also soon to be upgraded)

I almost never buy pc parts new. You can find much cheaper used stuff on eBay, Craigslist, and FB Marketplace.
Pick up a RTX 2080 and use it until next gen Ryzen is released. Then I'd get whatever CPU your motherboard can handle. Unless you have the cash to grab a new motherboard.

Also, what games are you playing? I have a decent PC with a 2080 and quite a lot of new AAA titles dip below 85 FPS.