[SOLVED] 1650 super for 1440p ultra/max at 60+fps?

[Boost55]

Hey all, first time asking on this forum. Anyways, I'm going to be picking up parts for my new pc this black friday/cyber monday, and it's pretty much going to be a budget/mid range build (aiming for 800 or lower). Some of the parts might seem unconventional for a budget build, but my thought process was budget but future proofed (hence the B550 and beefier PSU). So far, my build looks like this:

CPU: Ryzen 3 3300x or Ryzen 5 3600 (whichevers in stock or maybe the 4000 versions if their released in time)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8gb 3600mhz
MOBO: B550 Aorus Pro
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500gb +2 tb seagate barracuda HDD
PSU: Cooler Master MWE 80+ gold 650w (or whatever 650w 80+ gold is in stock at the time)
GPU: GTX 1650 Super
Case: Corsair 280x or 220T
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 or Corsair H115i RGB platinum SE (or I might just use stock AMD cooler since I won't be overclocking)

I'm going to be using this system mostly for productivity/gaming, no editing or streaming. The games that I will be playing will mostly be Battlefront 2, Overwatch, Squadrons, and Fallen Order. The problem is, I already have a monitor that's 1440p (HP Omen 27i 165hz IPS). I've heard from friends and other people that the 1650 super is primarily a 1080p card. Will I be fine using it for 1440p ultra/max settings at 60+ fps on the games I listed above? I will not be overclocking any of my components other than the RAM for DOCP at least in the near future. I am also considering the 1660 super and rtx 2060 if the 1650 super can't handle 1440p ultra that well. Thank you for your time!

 

[PrinceTexasLoaf]

In MOST titles getting 60+ fps with that card @1440p with ULTRA settings would be difficult. However adjusting simple settings that don't significantly affect graphics quality like turning off shadows or putting them on lowest settings, turning of reflections, reducing foliage quality etc.
You should be fine on those games, just tweak your settings a bit and 60fps will be a piece of cake. I was able to get 60 steady fps at 4k with an rx 580 on warzone still having texture quality at max and anti aliasing at 2x. Just experiment with graphics settings and adjust it as you like to that 60fps goal, having a balance between quality and smooth performance. Also getting a 2060 is well worth it, or even a 1660 super.maybe even hold out a tad for new gpu releases if that interests you. Although you could even just go for the 1650 super, since I got an rx 580 and I can do 1440p 60fps with tweaked settings just fine. The Rx 580 and the 1650 super are quite equal in terms in performance. Also if you wanted to, I'd recommend going for a cheaper cpu since even a ryzen 5 2600 is overkill with that gpu. Like get a ryzen 5 2600 then spend the money you save on a better gpu since the ryzen 5 2600 can just about support an rtx 2070/ rx 5700xt. I have a ryzen 5 2600 and an rx 580 and honestly wish I put more in my gpu since it's such an overkill cpu for my setup. (Whether or not a cpu will or won't bottleneck a gpu depends on how demanding the game / task is on the cpu)

 

[cryoburner]

I would definitely try to get better graphics hardware in there if you are targeting 1440p at ultra (or even high) settings. The 1650 SUPER is still a fine card for 1080p, but 1440p has around 78% more pixels to render, and will be a bit much for that card in demanding games. A 1660 SUPER might be a little better, but a 2060 or perhaps 5600 XT is probably the minimum I would currently go with for running demanding games at 1440p, and even that might require settings to be turned down slightly in some titles to maintain 60fps.

Nvidia is expected to launch new higher-end cards over the next few months, but they will likely start around the $400 range for the models launching this year. Still, that might potentially have some impact on the pricing of existing models, so it's possible that there might be some better deals on cards like the 2060, 2060 SUPER, 5700 and 5700 XT this fall.

AMD will likely be launching new CPUs, and I would expect them before Black Friday, but no time frame is known for certain quite yet. My best guess would be that they will start around $200 for a 6-core/12-thread processor though, with lower-cost Zen 3 options not appearing until sometime next year. The existing Zen 2 parts should still be fine though, and perhaps we might see some slightly better pricing on the 3600. As far as "future proofing" is concerned, I would want a 3600 over a 3300X, as a few games are already starting to show some benefit from the additional cores, and that's likely to become more of a concern as games start targeting the next-generation consoles.

If you had to cut corners somewhere, maybe the motherboard would be a reasonable place to start. There are some B550 boards available for around $130 or less that would likely work well enough, like the MicroATX version of that board, the B550M Aorus Pro. Unless that's the version you were referring to? The full size version of that board wouldn't fit in a Corsair 280X, after all, as it's a MicroATX case. On that note, you could probably find a cheaper case. There are some decent tempered glass options for around $70 or less that would probably be fine.

And unless you have the 970 Evo already, it might be worth considering swapping that for something else. There are some 1TB NVMe drives for not much more than the cost of a 500GB 970 Evo, or some 500GB drives for a decent amount less, and real-world performance has generally been shown to not be too different as far as loading today's games and applications is concerned.

You could probably make do with the stock cooler too if you are trying to free up more of the budget to put toward graphics hardware. It might be a bit more audible than an aftermarket cooler, and run a bit hotter, but should work fine.