[SOLVED] 1660 ti with a 460 watt psu?

[Mywifidoodoohelp]

Hello, I want to upgrade my gpu to a 1660 ti but i do not know if my power supply can support it. I have an xps 8930 with an i7-8700, 16 gb ddr4, and currently running gtx 1050 ti. I also have a 460 watt psu. Can you please tell me how much of a watt budget i would have for the 1660 ti and if it would run good? Also would i be pushing it that close to the max?
Thank you!

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

460 is kinda low in general I would just upgrade PSU

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Nvidia recommends only a 450w for the GTX1660ti, so 460w is fine.

However, can you show us a pic of the label of this 460w PSU? Knowing the OEM and any level of 80+ certification would be nice.

Also, how old is this PSU? Maybe 2 years judging by the age of an 8700.

 

[Mywifidoodoohelp]

Nvidia recommends only a 450w for the GTX1660ti, so 460w is fine.

However, can you show us a pic of the label of this 460w PSU? Knowing the OEM and any level of 80+ certification would be nice.

Also, how old is this PSU? Maybe 2 years judging by the age of an 8700.

Unfortunately i cannot take a picture of my psu at the moment, but does this info help:
The brand is dell (so i believe its a dell psu) and i have had the pc for a little under two years now

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Even though it may be a dell psu, i don't think dell actually makes any power supplies.

Even though the psu may say dell, they have the power supply designed by another company like liteon, delta, fsp, acbel, ect. Usually says somewhere on the label though not always.

If you can see the label on the psu, can you provide us the model number.

Does your psu have a 6 or 6+2 pin connector?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I searched for your system and it seems to have this model, but i would like to be sure.

I think acbel is one of the lesser good models

 

[Mywifidoodoohelp]

Nvidia recommends only a 450w for the GTX1660ti, so 460w is fine.

However, can you show us a pic of the label of this 460w PSU? Knowing the OEM and any level of 80+ certification would be nice.

Also, how old is this PSU? Maybe 2 years judging by the age of an 8700.

I searched for your system and it seems to have this model, but i would like to be sure.

I think acbel is one of the lesser good models

I searched for your system and it seems to have this model, but i would like to be sure.

I think acbel is one of the lesser good models

I can try to check everything you asked for tomorrow (unfortunately i cannot right now) but for the meantime i dont know if this helps (check page 16 of the pdf.... it has two different 460 watt psus and im not sure which is mine):
https://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/xps-8930-desktop_setup-guide_en-us.pdf

 

[Mywifidoodoohelp]

Even though it may be a dell psu, i don't think dell actually makes any power supplies.

Even though the psu may say dell, they have the power supply designed by another company like liteon, delta, fsp, acbel, ect. Usually says somewhere on the label though not always.

If you can see the label on the psu, can you provide us the model number.

Does your psu have a 6 or 6+2 pin connector?

i opened up my pc and checked and there was no label on the psu. i am not sure if its a 6 or 8 pin connector

 

[King_V]

The Dell 460W PSUs have generally been pretty good for years. Depending on which exact one and what model it came in, it might only have 2 of the 6-pin connectors rather than a 6 and an 8, or a 6 and a 6+2. Worst case, you MIGHT need to get something like this as an adapter, depending on what connectors your PSU has, and what connector your specific 1660Ti has.

This is the one I bought.

My son's XPS 8910 had a 6 pin and a 6+2 pin. Starting with those models and later (the "New XPS Tower" I think was how they referred to them), Dell was advertising on their page that they will work with up to a 225W GPU.

You should be fine with it. I ran an R9 285 (190W) and a GTX 1080 (180W, still in use) on my XPS 8700 (Haswell era) with the original Dell 460W PSU.
The old XPS 8300 (Sandy Bridge era) was using a GTX 660Ti (150W) for a couple of years, no problem.
My son's 8910 is now using that GTX 660Ti, but was previously (and will again soon) be using an RX 580 (about 185W?). It had been using that RX 580 for about a year.

Given the much lower power demand of the 1660Ti (120-130W), the Dell PSU should handle it without issue.

 

[Mywifidoodoohelp]

The Dell 460W PSUs have generally been pretty good for years. Depending on which exact one and what model it came in, it might only have 2 of the 6-pin connectors rather than a 6 and an 8, or a 6 and a 6+2. Worst case, you MIGHT need to get something like this as an adapter, depending on what connectors your PSU has, and what connector your specific 1660Ti has.

This is the one I bought.

My son's XPS 8910 had a 6 pin and a 6+2 pin. Starting with those models and later (the "New XPS Tower" I think was how they referred to them), Dell was advertising on their page that they will work with up to a 225W GPU.

You should be fine with it. I ran an R9 285 (190W) and a GTX 1080 (180W, still in use) on my XPS 8700 (Haswell era) with the original Dell 460W PSU.
The old XPS 8300 (Sandy Bridge era) was using a GTX 660Ti (150W) for a couple of years, no problem.
My son's 8910 is now using that GTX 660Ti, but was previously (and will again soon) be using an RX 580 (about 185W?). It had been using that RX 580 for about a year.

Given the much lower power demand of the 1660Ti (120-130W), the Dell PSU should handle it without issue.

That is great to hear. So if my psu has the right 6 or 8 or 6+2 pin connector for my 1660 ti, i should be able to upgrade my gpu without upgrading the power supply?
Edit: also, if possible, can you link me to wherever you read about dell 460 watt power supplies being able to run up to a 225 w gpu?
Thanks!

 

[King_V]

Yep, you should be good.

If you look here, about halfway down, it says:

Power

Up to 225W via 2x 6 pin power connectors (with 460W power supply)

The individual product pages, such as this page, a little more than halfway down, in the "Designed to grow with you" section, says:

Endlessly expandable: Your tower can support up to 225W full size graphics cards and up to four storage devices. Enjoy plenty of storage with capacity for three 3.5″ HDD bays or 2.5″ notebook drives plus one internal optical drive. Four tool-less PCle slots let you add in sound cards, graphics cards and more.

Any which way, the 1660Ti is FAR under that limit, at around 120-130W

 

[Mywifidoodoohelp]

Yep, you should be good.

If you look here, about halfway down, it says:



The individual product pages, such as this page, a little more than halfway down, in the "Designed to grow with you" section, says:


Any which way, the 1660Ti is FAR under that limit, at around 120-130W

But when they say it can support up to a 225 watt gpu do they mean any of the models can or just that there is a certain model available that has a 225 watt gpu, if that makes sense. For instance, i know there are models with gtx 1080s and they have 460 watt psus but i think i read that the psus in those models are better quality.

 

[King_V]

No, they don't put different variations of 460W PSUs in their machines based on what GPU the customer selects to get pre-installed by Dell. It doesn't have to be a particular model they include. To be honest, I don't know if any of the GPUs that Dell has offered as a preinstall since they started making that 225W claim with the XPS 8910 have ever been rated at exactly 225W.

There ARE different models/suppliers of 460W PSUs for Dell. But Dell is kind of risk-averse, so, if one supplier couldn't make them good enough, they went to someone else.

XPS 8300 (i5-2320), XPS 8700 (i5-4460), and XPS 8910 (i5-6400) all have original 460W PSUs, and all are still working fine.

I know when I ordered the XPS 8910 for my son - they had that blurb on there, but then they sent me one with a 350W PSU. I had to get in touch with customer support to get them to send me the the 460W PSU that was supposed to come with it.


Plus, they can't expect to make a statement like that, and expect the customer to know that there's some secret process going on behind it. They wouldn't want to deal with that so many warranty claims. The customer is going to expect exactly what Dell says on the page.

I've successfully used a GTX 660Ti (150W) R9 285 (190W), RX 580 (185W), and GTX 1080 (185W) with original equipment Dell 460W PSUs for years with no trouble, and these were on XPS models that came with the lowly GT 730 included with them, including on an XPS 8700 which was a 460W PSU, but before they started making the "supports up to 225W full size video cards" claim.

 

[Mywifidoodoohelp]

No, they don't put different variations of 460W PSUs in their machines based on what GPU the customer selects to get pre-installed by Dell. It doesn't have to be a particular model they include. To be honest, I don't know if any of the GPUs that Dell has offered as a preinstall since they started making that 225W claim with the XPS 8910 have ever been rated at exactly 225W.

There ARE different models/suppliers of 460W PSUs for Dell. But Dell is kind of risk-averse, so, if one supplier couldn't make them good enough, they went to someone else.

XPS 8300 (i5-2320), XPS 8700 (i5-4460), and XPS 8910 (i5-6400) all have original 460W PSUs, and all are still working fine.

I know when I ordered the XPS 8910 for my son - they had that blurb on there, but then they sent me one with a 350W PSU. I had to get in touch with customer support to get them to send me the the 460W PSU that was supposed to come with it.


Plus, they can't expect to make a statement like that, and expect the customer to know that there's some secret process going on behind it. They wouldn't want to deal with that so many warranty claims. The customer is going to expect exactly what Dell says on the page.

I've successfully used a GTX 660Ti (150W) R9 285 (190W), RX 580 (185W), and GTX 1080 (185W) with original equipment Dell 460W PSUs for years with no trouble, and these were on XPS models that came with the lowly GT 730 included with them, including on an XPS 8700 which was a 460W PSU, but before they started making the "supports up to 225W full size video cards" claim.

Alright cool. I really appreciate this information as it will save me a lot of time now knowing i do not have to replace my psu. If I have any more questions I will reply to your latest comment. Thank you so much!