1800x; or Go 1950x for same budget?

Molon Labe

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Budget: 5,000 USD
Purpose: Work(VM's, Lab Simulations, Multitasking), Gaming, Daily Use
Aesthetics: Definitely overkill in all regards currently,considering half the cost is purley looks(2k-$2400) maybe could lean things out. LOL


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fr3Hm8

Im not sure if its possible to build an AMD "ThreadRipper" 1950x for under 5k considering the cpu itself is 1/5 of my budget but it was worth looking at. Maybe the lesser thread ripper model is an option as well.


Thoughts?
 

TechyInAZ

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the 1800X (unless you find it for a great deal) isn't really a good bang for your buck CPU anymore. The Ryzen 7 1700X is much more of a value. at the 1800X price, your better off going with the 8 Core Ryzen ThreadRipper 1900X.
 

Herc08

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Well it just depends if you need all of the PCIe lanes and 16 cores. If you are doing some heavy duty stuff, I would say go with Threadripper. But your downfall is the RAM. Why are you dropping $400 on it? Do you really need RGB? Also a $200 case? Not to mention $1200 for the monitor...it just seems that a lot of this stuff is overkill, and transitioned elsewhere.

Honestly get the 1920x, since most applications probably will not touch 16 cores, at least not for a couple of years.
 

Molon Labe

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I appreciate all the feedback! Here is my no BS/BLING and as meat & potatoes as i can get.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vFXYD8

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vFXYD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vFXYD8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($203.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($339.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Extreme Video Card ($759.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2127.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-02 18:34 EDT-0400


This would leave me without monitor which I would really like the real estate of an Ultrawide(predator ect)

After that I can manage with my current deathadder mouse, deathstalker keyboard and pad from previous build.
 

TechyInAZ

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You can still do threadripper, even if you add a little bit of bling, it's good. But don't go overboard.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5GHz 12-Core Processor ($799.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($147.20 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard ($333.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($334.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Extreme Video Card ($759.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 760T Black ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2912.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-02 18:41 EDT-0400
 

Molon Labe

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Thats siick! I knew it could be done, this is an alternative build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QVGnRG
i did just with the extra $100 to case and of course a "monitor".

Thank you for this build! I will save that!
 

Molon Labe

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i didnt explicitly say i wanted thread ripper this thread was created because for the ungodly amount of crap i had added to my 1800x, i wasnt sure if a 1950x was do able regardless.
 

Herc08

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So do you already have a 1800x? I think that's the main thing. You truly don't need much more. 8 cores should do you jsut fine. hitting 4.0ghz should but easy with the right cooler. I honestly think threadripper is for that very very niche market. And I don't see you being in that market. Unless you can "two 6 cores" for your VMs, I don't see a need for anything over 8 cores. VMs are meant for temporary use, not for pernanment use. For work, we use a 4-core Xeon because it works just fine.
 

Molon Labe

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no i dont have either, been considering the 1800x for quite some time but havnt gotten around to buying/building yet. And since thread ripper is about to be releasedi figured it was still worth a look. but i guess benchmarks would be a huge deciding point prior.
 

TechyInAZ

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the 1800X (unless you find it for a great deal) isn't really a good bang for your buck CPU anymore. The Ryzen 7 1700X is much more of a value. at the 1800X price, your better off going with the 8 Core Ryzen ThreadRipper 1900X.
 

Herc08

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Again, for YOUR purposes, I would stick with the 1700/1700x. Sure threadripper is coming out, but there is one thing you have to worry about: heat. You need cooling if you plan on using all of the cores. However, as a stated earlier, not many applications will use more than 8 cores. I think it's evident that games will not get anywhere near it.
 

Molon Labe

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I will have to wait and see what happens to the market when 1900x ect is available, maybe snag a nice holiday deal on the 1800x then. Im in no rush, i think considering what i started off with, that rgb ludacrousy LOL. Im ok with an 1800x.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2QjNbj

Thanks for your imput!
 

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