$199 X1950 pro's appearing

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In any case, ATI intends the X1950 Pro to be a replacement for the X1900GT. It performs similarly (if not just slightly better) than the GT. But the change is that superior cooler, that X1950XTXish HSF. Also AnandTech has published stellar Crossfire performance for this card in their recent review, in every game benched except Quake 4:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2858
There is no CF dongle, just an SLI-like bridge on top of the two cards. In some cases it outperforms the >$400 X1900/50XTX when CF'ed. (Only $400 for a CF setup with two of these)

Pricing it at $289 would be nonsense, the X1900XT 256MB has already filled that niche, with superior performance.
 

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http://www.chiefvalue.com/product/productdetails.aspx?item=14-195-029
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814195029

In stock. :roll:
They should roll back to $200 after a few days (maybe a week or two) and demand has died down a little, just like the Conroes. If you're going to spend $300 on a video card, get something better.

I wonder if ATI will roll out a X1950XT to replace the X1900XT and its noisy as hell stock cooler. That would be really nice, especially if it sat at $300 with 512MB. 8)
 

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R570 is new with the X1950 pro. X1800's were R520.
Don't EVER forget to adding in that stinkin 'V' in RV570!!! :twisted:
V=Value=X1750XT

but it performs (little) better than a X1900GT, which in essence should perform about the same as an X1800XT since it performed slightly better than the GT...so its seems like ATi did a 360 with this one and are back to where they started in performance, just a cooler running card...
 

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I wonder if ATI will roll out a X1950XT to replace the X1900XT and its noisy as hell stock cooler. That would be really nice, especially if it sat at $300 with 512MB.
ATI is releasing a 256MB X1950XT; specs are pretty stinkin' nice to be honest. If this this is $300 or less, it will be a hot seller. http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/graphics_specifications.php?gpid=169
Thanks for the link, looks like the same stupid cooler though.
 

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It's a weird game to play now as you can't clock a $200 X1950Pro nor $264 X1900XT to within 10% of what X1950XT is capable of.
Oh I don't know wusy, I'd wager that people have gotten he X1900 XT to within 10% of a stock X1950 XTX pretty easily... maybe not in memory clocks, but with core clocks so high that it easily makes up for it.

And I'd bet raw performance is well within the 10% range, too. I don't think those days are over, we're just seeing an optimized product mix because the radeon X1x00 series is mature, no need to use high end parts to fill in low-end gaps in the market segments.
 

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Am I missing something here? Both those links have the X1950Pro for over $300 after shipping? Not a bargain at all.

Zipzoomfly might be out of the $199 X1950Pro at the moment but they do have the Diamond version for $229. At $199, it would be the new price/perf leader from my analysis, here.

Btw, I saw your link on my Price/Perf analysis for the HIS X1900XT saying it was $215. Well, maybe I'm late getting to the link, because it's not on Newegg any longer for that price. It's $276 after MIR. If it was $215, that would of been one hell of a deal.
 

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Am I missing something here? Both those links have the X1950Pro for over $300 after shipping? Not a bargain at all.

Zipzoomfly might be out of the $199 X1950Pro at the moment but they do have the Diamond version for $229. At $199, it would be the new price/perf leader from my analysis, here.

Btw, I saw your link on my Price/Perf analysis for the HIS X1900XT saying it was $215. Well, maybe I'm late getting to the link, because it's not on Newegg any longer for that price. It's $276 after MIR. If it was $215, that would of been one hell of a deal.
check the sarcasm...
 

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nice...
[http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161043/url] way better than the...(with price drop) [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814195029

how much till the price reaches $200?
 

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It's a weird game to play now as you can't clock a $200 X1950Pro nor $264 X1900XT to within 10% of what X1950XT is capable of.
Oh I don't know wusy, I'd wager that people have gotten he X1900 XT to within 10% of a stock X1950 XTX pretty easily... maybe not in memory clocks, but with core clocks so high that it easily makes up for it.

And I'd bet raw performance is well within the 10% range, too. I don't think those days are over, we're just seeing an optimized product mix because the radeon X1x00 series is mature, no need to use high end parts to fill in low-end gaps in the market segments.

I flashed the bios in my powercolor x1900xt 512 to the xtx bios, ran the board at stock xtx specs, and moved it up and topped it out within 5 ticks of the top of the CCC OC option.

Now that is a bargain, a $345 card doing $450 work. Rock solid till it sold today.
 

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