1st Build, looking for help

[nubbinator]

This is my first full system build in a long time (I did one like 20 years when Windows 3.0 was the norm and when my age was still in single digit numbers). I've done plenty of upgrading, but no full builds yet. I'm looking to build a cheap gaming PC in the $500-600 price range. I don't have an AMD/Intel preference, I just know AMD tends to be cheaper and their BE processors are fairly easy to OC and if anyone is going to suggest SLi or Crossfire, I prefer Crossfire. I think everything here is compatible, but if it isn't, it'd be great to hear if something isn't.

Here's what I'm looking at:

Case: $24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147074

PSU: $64.99 - $30 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010

MoBo: $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186141

CPU and RAM combo: $124.98 - $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.158665
(I've read that this RAM overclocks to 1000MHz and 4-4-4-12 fairly easily)

HD: $41.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075

GPU: $94.99 - $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121289

Thermal Compound: $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154003

Case Fans: $1.99 and $3.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835168006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200044

OS: $95.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

Heatsink: $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200023

Pre-Rebate Total: $598.18
-$70.00 MIR
Total After Rebates:$528.18


Thanks for the help.

 

[Mrbumbum]

Here is an Intel build that comes a little over your maximum budget.

E5200 $73
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072

G.SKILL PI Black $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359

Antec NSK4480B & Antec Earthwatts 380watt $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129032

LG Black 20X DVD+R $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136149

Asus 4830 $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121289

Western Digital Caviar Black 640gb $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

Total $613.88 & everything has free shipping

 

[aevm]

With overclocking, the E5200 beats the Athlon 64 X2 7750. Without overclocking, the Athlon 64 X2 7750 is faster. Better decide now if you will overclock or not. If you do overclock, get the E5200 and a good aftermarket cooler. If not, get the AMD. Either way, good choices for that budget.

Sapphire recommends a 450W or greater PSU for systems with a HD 4830. The Asus model doesn't say anyhing about the PSU on its Newegg page, but it's the same thing of course. The Earthwatts 380W can deliver 27A on the 12V rails combined, while the StealthXStream 600W can do 35A. I think the StealthXStream
is more appropriate here. Maybe combined with this case:

Rosewill Wind Ryder RZLS142A-P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147113

If you want Crossfire with HD 4830, get a bigger PSU that has the 2 PCI-E connectors and the juice.

 

[nubbinator]

I was looking at the Kuma 7750 vs the E5200 because it seems like it's easier to overclock and it sounds like it runs a little cooler, but I don't know how true that is. I don't have a whole lot of experience with overclocking CPUs, so that was part of it. I understand that the Kuma can get around 3.2-3.4GHz stable with a decent cooler and that the E5200 does about 3.3-3.5GHz. That and the Kuma's FSB is higher and it has three levels of cache vs the 2 in the Wolfdale. So, on the sounds of it, the Kuma is faster. I was planning on overclocking on air with a decent cooler. I know that I can use AMD overdrive to OC the Kuma. Don't I have to OC the Intel in the BIOS?

Sorry if I seem so dense, it's been a while for me, haha.

 

[nubbinator]

I was also thinking that if I was going to spend about $100 more like I would with the Intel rig, that it might be better to go with this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-SlickDeals&cm_mmc=AFC-SlickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&ItemList=Combo.160277