2 routers and a NAS => 1 network

[vsdagama]

Hey guys,

I'm trying to integrate my NAS on my home network, giving it a nice place to stay in the garage, but I'm running into a few questions.

Here's what I have to work with:
- a ISP modem (capable of both wired and wireless) (wireless part is too slow/not strong enough) therefor I got:
- a wireless router (D-link DIR655), soon updating to something like a Asus RT-AC66U because this one is not that stable and fast as it has been in the past. (factory reset does nothing)
- a Synology DS413j

So the ISP modem is located in the garage, the wireless router would be or in the garage or at my desk.
I managed to install the NAS and I can access it on every machine connected to the wireless router. Problem is that there are several pc's connected to the ISP modem in the garage and they can't access the NAS on the wireless router.
So the wireless router has it's own network (192.168.2.1) vs the modems network (192.168.0.1)

How can I get everything on 1 big network?

I am aware of this very usefull sticky located on this forum🙁http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/33700-42-ultimate-modem-router-setup-thread) but I can't seem to make up in which category/solution I fit.

Thanks!

 

[bill001g]

You can make it work the way you have it but you must do port forwarding as if you were access via the internet and mess with 2 networks addresses.

This is the reason running 2 "routers" is not recommended mostly because it is a pain to run that way.

So simplest way is let the ISP device be the router and make your other device a AP which since you have found the other document I won't repeat how to do it.

Your other option is to convert the ISP "router" into a modem only. Problem is now you can only hook your other router to it no direct connections from end devices. If you are ok with the wireless signal coming from your garage I would go this way. The AC66U is a very very nice router and has lots of capabilities most other routers do not. If you make it into a AP you lose everything except the radio settings.

.....a later thought... You could put the AC66U in the garage and use the dlink you are going to replace as a AP if you have wireless coverage issues in parts of your house.

 

[vsdagama]

The D-Link is currently not in a working state, working on that.

So apparantly I have 2 choices.
1. Make the ISP router a modem, but that makes me not able to connect any other ethernet cables to it. (currently all wires from around the house are connected to it..
2. Make the Asus an extension of the ISP router, but losing all it's fuctionality like that (this is not an option 😛)

The first option would be no problem, if I decide to 'house' the Asus router in the garage also. I guess I could then connect a switch to it and connect all ethernet cables through the asus like that.

Could you tell me what the term or method is where you mess with the 2 networks? What do I google for?

So sad it isn't more simple to make your local network act as one.


*So indeed, using the Asus in the garage, converting the ISP router and using the D-link as a AP if needed would be the ideal solution
I'll look into it when I get the Asus. And currently the D-link is non-functional permanent "acquiring network adress" on all my devices, even after factory reset etc...

Thank you very much sir for pointing out my options!

 

[bill001g]

Your issue with 2 routers is the same as the problem as someone who want to allow access to say a game server in their house from the internet.

If you pretend you only have a single router (ie the second one). From any device on this network everything past this is internet. So if someone from the "internet" needs access a device you most port map the WAN address. This is the same as when people map game servers so other people can access them.

It will depend exactly what you need to do. Port forwarding is somewhat limited a single port can only be mapped to a single machine. So if you would have 2 device on the second network that used the same port only 1 could be accessed from the outside.

 

[RealBeast]

As to bill001g's first suggestion: "So simplest way is let the ISP device be the router and make your other device a AP which since you have found the other document I won't repeat how to do it."

I totally agree with that, but you say that you will lose all the functionality of the ASUS -- other than using its DHCP, what do you lose that you need? You still will have what makes it a great device -- its wireless radios.

 

[vsdagama]

I added the D-link to the DMZ on my ISP's router and now the D-link has the NAS, 2 pc's, a media player and all wireless devices connected to it on 192.168.1.1, while the ISP's modem is 192.168.0.1.

So far I haven't ran into any problems.

Thanks guys for all advices and help, should I pick a "solution" while I went another route than the ones suggested by the kind helpers?