200$ motherboard -FIND IT!!!! HELP ME!!!!

[ali3596]

I'm looking to buy a $200 motherboard, p35 chipset. . e6300, RAM- 4GB OCZ, 1950xt. planning on tossing out the 1950 in the future and mayb looking at an 8800gtx. I've had a few in mind : tell me what you think about these or if yall got something better. Any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks in advance :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131182

how doee ABIT and Asus compare as far as reputable companies?

 

[jedimasterben]

Both are very reputable.

Asus stands behind their warranties, too. Even if you RMA one, the new one they send to you has another 2 year warranty added to it.

I prefer Gigabyte boards, though.

Are there any specific features you want? Do you need the wifi on the Asus board? etc.

 

[pogsnet]

Prefer Gigabyte on P35 model

 

[ali3596]

thanks for the fast responses. i dont care for the wifi. Just looking for a quality built mobo unlike this POS biostar i have right now. can you link me to a few $200 mobos from newegg that are quality built. Im looking for a mobo that has overclocking potential, also

Whats so special about gigabyte? are they better than abit/asus?

 

[jedimasterben]

Why not this board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

$89

Sure, it doesn't have a fancy-schmancy heatpipe cooling system or RAID, but it's a good board, from what I've seen.

 

[ali3596]

how does it compare to the other two, as far as quality/feature/overclock?

 

[The_OGS]

Hi ali3596,
That ABit mobo is great, no need to buy that expensive Asus.
But, yikes! That's a serious deal on that Gigabyte if it's a good mobo. Good power circuits/capacitors?
Great deal. And Northbridges will be just fine with standard modern case-cooling (ie. 120mm exhaust) and will not overheat, unless you are trying for FSB1600 LoL, and ramping NB voltage way up.
Basically you need heavy-duty for quad-core with serious vidcard(s) but, for most folks with my CPU or whatever, that Gigabyte mobo would be just fine
Regards

 

[ali3596]

thanks..... guys. anything else i should know about mobos. i heard that some mobos will not accept dualchannel if all banks are filled?

 

[torcida_kutina]

you can't compare $hits like asus and gigabyte with ABIT! ABIT is another world for them.

 

[ali3596]

are u being sarcastic or serious?

 

[torcida_kutina]

serious. All what asus & gigabyte have is name (good advertisement). Something like EA games.

 

[jedimasterben]

Please ignore torcida_kutina.

Well, with a Core 2 Duo, dual channel won't matter. The Core 2's cache negates the difference with dual or single channel.

Gigabtye boards can overclock like crazy, and have great quality. I have used several, and not one has failed to amaze me.

 

[torcida_kutina]

in last 3 years i have build more than 2000 computers, and fixed more than 3000. The number are more than bad for asus and gigabyte. cca. 30 of 100 Mobos were returned back in the guarantee time(from ASUS & Gigabyte), and cca 3 - 5 from ABIT. Even ASrock numbers are better from ASUS & Gigabyte. You may think i'm crazy, but i'll never go for ASUS or Gigabyte. I didn't mean to offense anybody with that, but thats the facts.

 

[torcida_kutina]

Please ignore torcida_kutina.

Well, with a Core 2 Duo, dual channel won't matter. The Core 2's cache negates the difference with dual or single channel.

Gigabtye boards can overclock like crazy, and have great quality. I have used several, and not one has failed to amaze me.

"Please ignore jedimasterben". Knowledge isn't what he has. It is different when you work with PC's all your life, and when mommy and daddy buys you one.

 

[torcida_kutina]

Sorry for my english. I also saw the mistake

 

[jedimasterben]

@torcida_kutina:
This is a place for discussion, not pointless bickering. The OP is asking for help, and I am attempting to give it. Then you come along and blast your opinion as if it were fact.

There are millions of people running boards made from Asus and Gigabyte, which proves that they do not produce bad/cheaply made products.

In my personal experiences, Gigabyte has shown excellent performance and quality, with an excellent price to boot, and this is why I am recommending a Gigabyte board to the OP.

 

[ali3596]

you know what... i'v read all the reveiws on the asus motherboards and there are tons of DOAs/faulty pins/etc. problems compared to ABIT. i mean wow.....

 

[torcida_kutina]

@torcida_kutina:
This is a place for discussion, not pointless bickering. The OP is asking for help, and I am attempting to give it. Then you come along and blast your opinion as if it were fact.

There are millions of people running boards made from Asus and Gigabyte, which proves that they do not produce bad/cheaply made products.

In my personal experiences, Gigabyte has shown excellent performance and quality, with an excellent price to boot, and this is why I am recommending a Gigabyte board to the OP.

I want help him to. You came with your opinion without facts, and i gave him facts. Sorry but your personal experience don't matter, like mine too, but i gave him facts, and try to help. So, if you're offended with that-sorry, but you don't know $hit about what we are talking about up there.

 

[The_OGS]

...with a Core 2 Duo, dual channel won't matter. The Core 2's cache negates the difference with dual or single channel.

LoL, speaking of facts... now here is some unique information.
I take it most people understand that Core 2 Duo on FSB1066 has 8.4GB/s CPU bandwidth.
PC2-4200 (533DDR) has 4.2GB/s bandwidth; so 533DDR in dual-channel (128-bit) mode therefore has CPU-matching 8.4GB/s bandwidth.
Well I suppose one could run PC2-8500 @ 1066DDR in single channel, and get enough bandwidth...
But really! Because the large cache camouflages inadequate memory bandwidth, doesn't mean it's unimportant.
There is truth, though, in jedimasterben's observation! And I tell folks over & over: you don't need bandwidth beyond that of your CPU.
Ben is suggesting that bandwidth 1/2 that of the CPU is hardly noticable - which would seem to reinforce my point.
DDR2-667 is just fine, even for FSB1333 CPU, as long as it is in dual-channel!
Of course PC2-6400 will allow you an OC up to 400MHz FSB coreclock, or better timings @ 667MHz, so it's not a bad investment...
I love ABit; am recently disappointed with Asus (P5K - yuck); and note that Gigabyte seems very popular mobo, but I hear plenty of problems. This could, however, simply be because the Gigabyte are so popular...
L8R

 

[torcida_kutina]

...with a Core 2 Duo, dual channel won't matter. The Core 2's cache negates the difference with dual or single channel.

LoL, speaking of facts... now here is some unique information.
I take it most people understand that Core 2 Duo on FSB1066 has 8.4GB/s CPU bandwidth.
PC2-4200 (533DDR) has 4.2GB/s bandwidth; so 533DDR in dual-channel (128-bit) mode therefore has CPU-matching 8.4GB/s bandwidth.
Well I suppose one could run PC2-8500 @ 1066DDR in single channel, and get enough bandwidth...
But really! Because the large cache camouflages inadequate memory bandwidth, doesn't mean it's unimportant.
There is truth, though, in jedimasterben's observation! And I tell folks over & over: you don't need bandwidth beyond that of your CPU.
Ben is suggesting that bandwidth 1/2 that of the CPU is hardly noticable - which would seem to reinforce my point.
DDR2-667 is just fine, even for FSB1333 CPU, as long as it is in dual-channel!
Of course PC2-6400 will allow you an OC up to 400MHz FSB coreclock, or better timings @ 667MHz, so it's not a bad investment...
I love ABit; am recently disappointed with Asus (P5K - yuck); and note that Gigabyte seems very popular mobo, but I hear plenty of problems. This could, however, simply be because the Gigabyte are so popular...
L8R

Thanks, finaly someone who knows the difference

 

[jedimasterben]

Thanks for the tag-out while I was away today, the_ogs!

Gigabyte is becoming more popular, yes, which is why people are giving them more attention, and publicly pointing out their flaws that they experienced with their board. Some are widespread, some aren't. If it's widespread, people will RMA the boards and either get a new one or a different board, not always from a different brand.

I've had Asus boards that were damn freakin awesome, one in which I overclocked my Opteron higher than I had ever seen anywhere on the net (not THE highest, but the highest without changing the stock voltage or fixing the voltage droop), and then I've had three more bad Asus boards. I've had a rock solid Gigabyte board here that I am hoping to be able to keep for a good while.

Not everyone prefers the same brands. This is human nature, to want something different from someone else, and I'm perfectly fine with that. You love Abit. Sweet. More power to you. I prefer Gigabyte boards. Very similar, yet very different. Neither of us is wrong. It's our preference. I like mine, you like yours, but, I actually support your decision to like another brand.

Sorry for my english. I also saw the mistake

I just noticed this.

Hey, that's cool. You're not from here, so no one expects perfection. You got your point across, and that's all that matters.