$2000 Gaming System, months research completed, Final Thoughts/Questions

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Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: $2000 flexible

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, rendering

Parts Not Required: OS, Peripherals

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Country: USA

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/G64NjX I'm pretty set on CPU, motherboard, video card, PSU, and case. Do I need a CPU cooler since I am not overclocking? I'm still trying to decide on RAM. (I think 8x2gb is better than 4x4gb?).

Any other thoughts/suggestions before I purchase? Thank you!


 
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-The Hyper $212 has no place in a $2k system. You don't need a cooler unless a) you are overclocking, b) have poor case cooling or c) live in a very hot place.

-You don't need a K series processoir or a Z97 MoBo if not overclocking.... kinda like buying a 4 wheel drive vehicle if you never go off road and never see snow.

-2 x8GB is the way to go, less load on IMC.

-Can't see 1600 when 2133 and even sometimes 2400 is close to same price.

-Compare the reviews on the 980s before picking one

-Are you planning SLI (2 GFX cards) , if not don't need that much PSU

-And rendering with what ? If the usage is significant, the 58530k will help some, the GRTX GFX cards will hurt .... quite a bit more
 
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I think you can drop the CPU cooler since you're not going to OC. I've heard that there have been some kind of failure issues with the Samsung 840 ssd, but the 850's seem to be working well (I've been using an 850 for about two weeks now and it's working fine so far. Also, I'd consider a Radeon R9 290X for the GPU, but that's up to you, I guess.
 
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I recommend overclocking that cpu and getting a better cooler, normally I would just say "Oh get the non k version paired with a h97 to save some money" how ever there is a 400mhz clock difference between the k and non k version which will actually help render just a bit so might as well overclock to make it even more worth it. On top of this you can get a cheaper 1t hdd as $80 is over priced.
 
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Rendering? Grab this instead:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X99X Killer ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($256.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($175.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Core Edition Video Card ($666.50 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $1948.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-24 20:20 EDT-0400

The processor has 6 cores, which will be beneficial to any video editing programs because they utilize more cores to work with. And the R9 295X2 I could replace, but it'll help in 4K gaming when you want to do so.
 
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I'd think getting a 850 EVO instead of the 840 Pro, pro has only slightly more performance for a huge price increase.
Yes look at different 980, reference cards are not the best, after market versions with custom coolers are factory OC are much better.
You can get away with a smaller PSU, but gold rating and having it run in a more optimal power draw position will save you money in the long run and the EVGA G2's are really good PSU, also leaves room if you do want to SLI in the future.
As for normal HDD, to people saying others are cheaper the blacks come with a 5 year warranty, and perform better than greens and blues, if the rendering is going to be doing some writing or reading to/from the HDD it is the better choice.
 
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EDIT 3/25/15: Changed to keep "K" CPU and Z97 board, upgrade PSU and case.
Add Noctua cooler and change GTX 980 to 970.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.30 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($326.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.78 @ Directron)
Total: $1344.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-25 10:16 EDT-0400
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus H97-PRO GAMER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Re 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($90.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video Card ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.78 @ Directron)
Total: $1795.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-24 20:39 EDT-0400

-I say keep the i7-4790k, it's 4.0GHz while the i7-4790 is 3.6GHz.
-Yes get a CPU cooler, it will be more silent. But if you dont mind the noise, the stock cooler that comes from Intel is pretty decent.
-Changed your MB for an H97 since you wont overclock
-Changed your Memory for the same model but DDR3-1866 instead. Theres little difference in price so it's worth it.
-Changed your SSD 840 Pro for the 850 Pro, which is better and cheaper.
-Changed your WD Back 1TB for WD RE 1TB
-Video Card: like someone else pointed out, you should look at some review before finalizing your choice.
-Change your case for a fractal Define R5 instead. Best case on the market at the moment :)
 
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Decent build... for $1250.
1) Since we're talking about $2000 and rendering, we'll need extra cores and more GPU power. However, if you're doing a gaming build, roughly $1200 would be high quality and sufficient for max@1080p. You fulfilled non of those cases.
2) 2x GTX 970 is only $646, and your GTX 980 already cost $523 and only 15% better than a GTX 970. Go figure.
3) The PSU and the case are subpar at quality for this price. You should be able to fit a Fractal, H440, or Phanteks case in this budget. On the PSU side, EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W is the best PSU for quality for that voltage. SeaSonic X series, Platinum series, and M12II series also has the best PSU quality for its price.
 
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"Decent build... for $1250." Thanks.

"1) Since we're talking about $2000 and rendering, we'll need extra cores and more GPU power. However, if you're doing a gaming build, roughly $1200 would be high quality and sufficient for max@1080p. You fulfilled non of those cases."

Op said gaming was priority, rendering secondary. Core i7 seemed logical. Unless he makes a living rendering it would be a large expenditure for nothing to go 6 core.

"2) 2x GTX 970 is only $646, and your GTX 980 already cost $523 and only 15% better than a GTX 970. Go figure."

Maybe single 970 would be better.

"3) The PSU and the case are subpar at quality for this price. You should be able to fit a Fractal, H440, or Phanteks case in this budget. On the PSU side, EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W is the best PSU for quality for that voltage. SeaSonic X series, Platinum series, and M12II series also has the best PSU quality for its price."

PSU I chose is B2 series made by Superflower. How is that subpar? OP said he was set on case, cpu, board etc.. and not overclocking. I simply used his choice for case and moved him into non-OC cpu and board. Seemed logical to me and saved a bunch of money. The build I posted was the result of analysis of his needs. I didn't just throw it out there.
 
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Thanks for your insight and response. BTW, the tier list you linked is the old one from 2013. The new one for 2015 is here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
 
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Jack the 4790k isn't just for OCers. It is a special CPU. It's base clock runs at 400MHz higher than it's none-k variant. If you could get 4.4GHz and not OC, then go for it. If the 4790 had a boost up to 4.4GHz then that would be a different story. But it doesn't.

Anyways, only logical options to me would be the 4790k, 1231, or X99.
 
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