2018 Build Critique

[shawnsum]

Hey all, thinking about finally doing some upgrading and always like to come here and get some input before pulling the trigger on anything. This is what I've got so far. I already own a GTX 980TI so I'll still be using that for a while.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9QBzP3

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

 

[WildCard999]

Looks good, I'd change the 850 G2 to the 650W G3 as it's newer and 650W is plenty for the build including overclocking.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $69.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-12 10:13 EDT-0400

I'd change the RAM as well since that Trident Z is overpriced.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $159.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-12 10:14 EDT-0400

 

[shawnsum]

Looks good, I'd change the 850 G2 to the 650W G3 as it's newer and 650W is plenty for the build including overclocking.

I like to do a bit of future proofing when building new systems. I'll use my current GTX 980TI for a while but I will be getting the next gen TI version of whatever nvidia card they produce in a year or two. I'd hate to have to buy another PSU just because a newer GPU requires more power. In 2012 I bought the 1050w Corsair, way overkill obviously and could probably still use it but I'm more than likely going to be selling my old system.

I'll shop around for some better priced memory, seems like they are all high now though.

 

[Rdslw]

Well maybe some HDD for backup/storage to make sure that fast drive have free space. other than that +1

 

[Ztdutxjgxgtu]

Why do you need fast memory? Meaningless

 

[vapour]

Key question: Major usage and potential usage? Monitor resolution and Hz?

 

[geofelt]

Looks good, you can build as is.

Some thoughts:

New graphics cards built with smaller mfg technology will consume less power, not more.
At least that has been the recent trend.
I would think 650w would handle anything.
That said,
I have no problem overprovisioning a PSU a bit. Say 20%.
It will allow for a stronger future graphics card upgrade.
It will run cooler, quieter, and more efficiently in the middle third of it's range.
A PSU will only use the wattage demanded of it, regardless of it's max capability.

Intel processors are not that sensitive to ram speeds for performance. I think 3200 is about right.

I like the case, it comes with two front intake fans, and a single exhaust.
It is not clear if those fans are filtered, but for most cases they can be.
That is good since a positive pressure setup will keep your parts cleaner.
That setup will provide sufficient cooling airflow for the hottest of graphics cards and cpu.

I see no need for a aio liquid cooler.
A Noctua NH-D15s will fit nicely and cool your cpu equally well.
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
Past that, A AIO radiator complicates creating a positive pressure filtered cooling setup which can keep your parts clean.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
Google for AIO leaks to see what can happen.
While unlikely, leaks do happen.

I would support an AIO cooler primarily in a space restricted case.
If one puts looks over function, that is a personal thing; not for me though.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

 

[logainofhades]

The 980ti is a bit of a power hog, compared to current gen cards, so I would probably stick with a 750w, at minimum. The 8700k gets power hungry fast, when overclocking, and can get hot fast. That particular ram kit is overpriced.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($347.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($156.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - Trooper SE ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1235.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-12 11:03 EDT-0400

 

[shawnsum]

Key question: Major usage and potential usage? Monitor resolution and Hz?

Gaming, mostly MMOs and occasional really good single player stuff. Witcher 3, etc.

2560 x 1440 @ 165hz

 

[shawnsum]

Looks good, you can build as is.

Some thoughts:

New graphics cards built with smaller mfg technology will consume less power, not more.
At least that has been the recent trend.
I would think 650w would handle anything.
That said,
I have no problem overprovisioning a PSU a bit. Say 20%.
It will allow for a stronger future graphics card upgrade.
It will run cooler, quieter, and more efficiently in the middle third of it's range.
A PSU will only use the wattage demanded of it, regardless of it's max capability.

Intel processors are not that sensitive to ram speeds for performance. I think 3200 is about right.

I like the case, it comes with two front intake fans, and a single exhaust.
It is not clear if those fans are filtered, but for most cases they can be.
That is good since a positive pressure setup will keep your parts cleaner.
That setup will provide sufficient cooling airflow for the hottest of graphics cards and cpu.

I see no need for a aio liquid cooler.
A Noctua NH-D15s will fit nicely and cool your cpu equally well.
My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
Past that, A AIO radiator complicates creating a positive pressure filtered cooling setup which can keep your parts clean.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
Google for AIO leaks to see what can happen.
While unlikely, leaks do happen.

I would support an AIO cooler primarily in a space restricted case.
If one puts looks over function, that is a personal thing; not for me though.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

Thank you for the very detailed response and input!

 

[vapour]

980ti will struggle in witches for 1440p unless you dial down settings. If I were you, I will sell the 980ti and get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($81.82 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.95 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB ARMOR Video Card ($734.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1390.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-12 12:34 EDT-0400

 

[vapour]

Or wait for 1180ti assuming similar price.

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($347.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($104.99 @ Newegg Business)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($239.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($191.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($196.01 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro TG RGB ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.81 @ Amazon)
Total: $1318.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-12 12:27 EDT-0400

If you really want complete RGB Package here you have it.

You can replace the case with CM one.

AIO cooler is good to have because it improves aesthetics of the build.

AIO not being reliable and news of leakage is very old and outdated. Since the launch of Corsair V2 series and later there has not been a single leakage. Therefore I recommend Corsair AIOs with no second thought.

 

[profoundnoah]

I agree with vapour here; unless you're going to start streaming/editing, you REALLY don't need the 8700k. "Future Proofing" is more easily done with the GPU than the CPU. For example: although nearly $200 cheaper, the 8400 performs NEARLY as good if not THE SAME as the 8700k, ESPECIALLY at 1440p, where titles start to become GPU bound.

The 8400 will be HIGHLY unlikely to bottleneck any GPU you throw at it for a fair while, don't listen to all those i7 fanboys out there. I myself have needed to deal with said fanboys in a previous thread, as a matter of fact, it was VERY similar to your situation. The 8400 is FAR more worth your money than the 8700k, at least in this build scenario.

As for AIO's, the previous statement is utterly FALSE. There will always be a CHANCE of leaking, regardless of how well designed you may think an AIO is. If the OP goes with the 8400, thats all the less reason for going with an AIO.

 

[geofelt]

How important is $130 to you?

You might consider a I5-8600K if you mostly play mmo's, sims, and strategy games.
It is multiplayer that responds to many threads.

I5-8600K still gives you 6 threads, more than enough for most games.
It will OC to about the same 5.0 level as a i7-8700K

OTOH, if your budget is not an issue, go ahead and buy the 8700K, there is no downside.