Question 2060 and 8GB Ram

[MhN]

Hello! I have a 2060, I5 8400, 1x8 GB RAM 2400mhz, H310M, and a 650w PSU that I changed yesterday.I have a problem in games and I don't think it's the bottleneck's fault.CPU usage is much higher than gpu usage. In GTA V 70-90% CPU usage and 30-40% GPU usage. Do you think it's because of the ram because is single chanel? If I upgrade to 2x8 2666 ram, will it still be the same?I want to mention that yesterday I changed the psu from 400W to 650W and I noticed a difference of 10fps in Furmark, from 131 to 141. Thanks!

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I have a 2060, I5 8400, 1x8 GB RAM 2400mhz, H310M, and a 650w PSU that I changed yesterday.I have a problem in games and I don't think it's the bottleneck's

Hey there,

So yes, having 1 x8gb ram is not great at all. You really need 2 x8 or 2 x 16. What motherboard do you have? I think you should be able to get 3200mhz ram that will work. It gives you dual channel performance boost along with faster ram speeds.

I want to mention that yesterday I changed the psu from 400W to 650W and I noticed a difference of 10fps in Furmark, from 131 to 141. Thanks!

This is a coincidence. Although the new PSU orientation might contribute to better airflow. But a PSU change doesn't typically effect CPU temps.

 

[Nighthawk117]

Single Channel vs Dual Channel Memory: Which is Better for Gaming?

Single-channel vs dual-channel memory. Which memory configuration is better for gaming and high-performance PCs? Also, what’s the difference between single-channel and dual-channel memory? And is dual-channel worth the extra investment? Impact of Memory Speed on Gaming Performance RAM speed, in...

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Take a look at Assassin's Creed Origins, the 2400Mhz SC (single channel) has less than half the FPS of the 2400Mhz DC (dual channel). I've found this in the past that it can particularly hurt the minimum frame rates. Your more likely to get stutters and less consistent performance on single channel memory.

To give you another example:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8cZCko0d60


Upgrading from single channel RAM to dual channel made a big difference. The 10300H is a less powerful CPU than the i5 8400.

 

[MhN]

What motherboard do you have?

H310M-K R2.0 2666mhz Max

 

[MhN]

Single Channel vs Dual Channel Memory: Which is Better for Gaming?

Single-channel vs dual-channel memory. Which memory configuration is better for gaming and high-performance PCs? Also, what’s the difference between single-channel and dual-channel memory? And is dual-channel worth the extra investment? Impact of Memory Speed on Gaming Performance RAM speed, in...

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Take a look at Assassin's Creed Origins, the 2400Mhz SC (single channel) has less than half the FPS of the 2400Mhz DC (dual channel). I've found this in the past that it can particularly hurt the minimum frame rates. Your more likely to get stutters and less consistent performance on single channel memory.

Thank you so much for reply

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

H310M-K R2.0 2666mhz Max

Ah, dammit. Yes, 2666mhz is the max for that mobo. Your CPU will be fine for that.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

You can use this : How to find the right memory for your system | Crucial.com

To find suitable memory. No need for anything flashy.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Single Channel vs Dual Channel Memory: Which is Better for Gaming?

Single-channel vs dual-channel memory. Which memory configuration is better for gaming and high-performance PCs? Also, what’s the difference between single-channel and dual-channel memory? And is dual-channel worth the extra investment? Impact of Memory Speed on Gaming Performance RAM speed, in...

www.hardwaretimes.com

Take a look at Assassin's Creed Origins, the 2400Mhz SC (single channel) has less than half the FPS of the 2400Mhz DC (dual channel). I've found this in the past that it can particularly hurt the minimum frame rates. Your more likely to get stutters and less consistent performance on single channel memory.

To give you another example:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8cZCko0d60


Upgrading from single channel RAM to dual channel made a big difference. The 10300H is a less powerful CPU than the i5 8400.

Yeah, very true. With only 8gb the system will be using the swap/virtual file which can tank FPS and peformance. Uggh.

 

[Nighthawk117]

Yeah, very true. With only 8gb the system will be using the swap/virtual file which can tank FPS and peformance. Uggh.

Yes I agree, that can cause a stutterery mess in itself. I was playing a game the other day and it was using 8GB on it's own.

 

[MhN]

Thank you all for your replies!

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Yes I agree, that can cause a stutterery mess in itself. I was playing a game the other day and it was using 8GB on it's own.

I've noticed that too lately. Lots of games are using upwards of 8gb system ram. Will only continue to go like that and more.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Thank you all for your replies!

No probs, you are welcome!

Let us know how the fixes go. Really though, once you get the 16gb dual channel going, you will be happy.

 

[Nighthawk117]

I've noticed that too lately. Lots of games are using upwards of 8gb system ram. Will only continue to go like that and more.

Yeah definitely wouldn't get less than 16GB for anything non trivial these days. If your building a new gaming rig now then 32GB isn't silly if you've got lots open while your playing games.

 

[MhN]

No probs, you are welcome!

Let us know how the fixes go. Really though, once you get the 16gb dual channel going, you will be happy.

One more question. Does this also cause higher cpu usage than gpu?I watched a lot of videos with tests on the 2060 and i5 8400 and they worked very well

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

One more question. Does this also cause higher cpu usage than gpu?I watched a lot of videos with tests on the 2060 and i5 8400 and they worked very well

I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

The RTX 2060 and the I5 8500 are a good match. Nicely balanced.

If you mean, does the extra ram cause more GPU vram to be used (system ram and Vram are different), Then no, it should not.

The benefit for having 2 x 8gb or 2 x 16gb, is firstly Dual Channel (this brings approx 5-15% performance boost depending on the application), but the faster ram 2666 will also bring a nice bump in performance (maybe 5%).

When you have 16gb (in dual channel), it will really compliment your system very well. It will work nicely

 

[MhN]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

The RTX 2060 and the I5 8500 are a good match. Nicely balanced.

If you mean, does the extra ram cause more GPU vram to be used (system ram and Vram are different), Then no, it should not.

The benefit for having 2 x 8gb or 2 x 16gb, is firstly Dual Channel (this brings approx 5-15% performance boost depending on the application), but the faster ram 2666 will also bring a nice bump in performance (maybe 5%).

When you have 16gb (in dual channel), it will really compliment your system very well. It will work nicely

Thank you very much for your patience! I'm not good at computers and I don't really know how to express myself, but maybe now you'll understand. In all games, my PC does not force the video card at all, that is, it uses the CPU at 80-90% and the GPU at 30-40%. Now the question is ) does the lack of ram make the pc use more CPU? I mean, I don't think it's normal for the video card to stay at 30-40% and the cpu max usage. I hope you understand what I'm saying ) I mean, it scares me that the video card is not forced that much as cpu.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Thank you very much for your patience! I'm not good at computers and I don't really know how to express myself, but maybe now you'll understand. In all games, my PC does not force the video card at all, that is, it uses the CPU at 80-90% and the GPU at 30-40%. Now the question is ) does the lack of ram make the pc use more CPU? I mean, I don't think it's normal for the video card to stay at 30-40% and the cpu max usage. I hope you understand what I'm saying ) I mean, it scares me that the video card is not forced that much as cpu.

Ah, sure. I understand now. So, there could be a number of reasons why the GPU isn't at 100% load.

1. The game is not demanding and is easily handled by your GPU and/or you CPU.
2. The game is artificially limited. This could be because of in game settings like, V-Sync on, or max Hz of 144.
3. G-Synv/Freesync.
4. You power plan should be set to high performance.
5. Set your 'Power Management Mode' in the NVCP to prefer 'maximum performance..
6. Uninstall your GPU Drivers using DDU (in safe mode). Then do a fresh 'clean install' for the Nvidia Drivers.
7. Make sure all you system drivers, specially chipset drivers, are updated to the latest ones.
8. Check what bios you are running. You can do this with CPU-z and the Mainboard/Motherboard tab.

Sometimes this is normal with CPU/GPU not being the same, or one being lower than the other.

With all of this said, I think you should get a new 2 x8gb kit (do not buy just one new stick of ram) of 2666mhz ram, and then get back to us. I think it will solve your issue.

 

[MhN]

Ah, sure. I understand now. So, there could be a number of reasons why the GPU isn't at 100% load.

1. The game is not demanding and is easily handled by your GPU and/or you CPU.
2. The game is artificially limited. This could be because of in game settings like, V-Sync on, or max Hz of 144.
3. G-Synv/Freesync.
4. You power plan should be set to high performance.
5. Set your 'Power Management Mode' in the NVCP to prefer 'maximum performance..
6. Uninstall your GPU Drivers using DDU (in safe mode). Then do a fresh 'clean install' for the Nvidia Drivers.
7. Make sure all you system drivers, specially chipset drivers, are updated to the latest ones.
8. Check what bios you are running. You can do this with CPU-z and the Mainboard/Motherboard tab.

Sometimes this is normal with CPU/GPU not being the same, or one being lower than the other.

With all of this said, I think you should get a new 2 x8gb kit (do not buy just one new stick of ram) of 2666mhz ram, and then get back to us. I think it will solve your issue.

Thank you very much for your patience and for clearing me up. You are a savior❤️

 

[Vic 40]

First add ram than after that look at cpu usage, i think you will see it drop.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Thank you very much for your patience and for clearing me up. You are a savior❤

You're most welcome

 

[MhN]

You're most welcome

Hello again! I just finished the tests with the new rams. 2x16 2666mhz. I caught them at a discount and said to make the jump directly to 32GB RAM. First I want to thank you for the recommendation. Switching to dual channel was the best decision in my life. I see some big differences. First of all, I can play with the discord in the bar, I don't have to close it anymore. In Fifa I have 100 fps constantly with ultra graphics. Before, I played with them on low to avoid framedrops. On csgo there is not such a big difference, but the fps are stable, from 220 to 240 with them on high. In fivem I have 120 fps, constant this time. In warzone before I couldn't go over 60 fps and now I have 80 and it doesn't drop below 60 at all. Thank you for helping me. I have one more question. Usages are more balanced. 70% cpu 50 60% gpu. they are good? or do I have to change the processor? Thank you <3

 

[Vic 40]

Glad to hear things have changed and see you happy with the reults. Question about the cpu and upgrading is linked to that as well, if you're happy with how things run is there little reason for an upgrade, if you want better might it give even more fps, it's up to you.
Be aware that a imo your motherboard kinda poses a limit to what you can upgrade to, would really want to know hat H310M you have, we maybe can say more if we know.

 

[MhN]

Glad to hear things have changed and see you happy with the reults. Question about the cpu and upgrading is linked to that as well, if you're happy with how things run is there little reason for an upgrade, if you want better might it give even more fps, it's up to you.
Be aware that a imo your motherboard kinda poses a limit to what you can upgrade to, would really want to know hat H310M you have, we maybe can say more if we know.

Thank you for your answer! I have H310M K R2.0, if I'm going to change my processor, I'll also change my motherboard. I don't necessarily want to change it, but I hope there won't be a bottleneck I play most games in 1080p

 

[Vic 40]

Just enjoy the extra performance now.

If you indeed want to upgrade cpu+motherboard is it maybe beter to set up a new thread for that when you are ready, would look at next year and new parts that come out. To make clear i wouldn't choose to upgrade on this motherboard, just be happy with how it is now.

And you're welcome.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hello again! I just finished the tests with the new rams. 2x16 2666mhz. I caught them at a discount and said to make the jump directly to 32GB RAM. First I want to thank you for the recommendation. Switching to dual channel was the best decision in my life. I see some big differences. First of all, I can play with the discord in the bar, I don't have to close it anymore. In Fifa I have 100 fps constantly with ultra graphics. Before, I played with them on low to avoid framedrops. On csgo there is not such a big difference, but the fps are stable, from 220 to 240 with them on high. In fivem I have 120 fps, constant this time. In warzone before I couldn't go over 60 fps and now I have 80 and it doesn't drop below 60 at all. Thank you for helping me. I have one more question. Usages are more balanced. 70% cpu 50 60% gpu. they are good? or do I have to change the processor? Thank you <3

Ah, I'm very happy to hear that! Glad you're getting such good results. It kinda shows that what we think sometimes is a GPU issue, is actually something else in disguise.

So, in terms of the balance. They are actually pretty well balanced CPU/GPU combo. You could argue that your i5 8400 which has 6 cores and 6 threads, might max out in a game or two that are CPU demanding. But there aren't many of those that you might play. For everything else the 6 cores would be fine.

Also, do keep in mind that 100% usage on both CPU/GPU are rare. Some games won't even use a quarter of CPU/GPU resources. SO you might find a game with 30 % CPU usage and 70% GPU usage. It just means the games isn't that demanding or there is some other artificial process (like locked frame rates/Gsync etc) keeping usage low.

As @Vic 40 Said. enjoy the new found freedom, and play your games to see what improvments there is. Maybe futher down the line you could upgrade a mobo/CPU combo to a 5600x /B550 or 12400/B660 combo, which along with your current parts give you a nice bump in performance.

edit: There is no bottleneck caused by the motherboard. CPU/GPU well balanced.