[SOLVED] 2070 and 2060 super

[tenukpcgame]

Hi all,

Between ROG Strix 2070 and Gigabytes aorus rtx 2060 super, which one will u choose?

I want to go with the recent one but both got the same vram 8gb. Somemore, the 2070 is more cheaper 30 dollar than the 2060 super.

Upgrade from 1060 6gb.
Procs: r5 2600x
Ram: 16gb ddr4 hyperx
Mobo: B450 Aorus Pro

Games: I want to play Red Dead redemp 2

 

[Barty1884]

All else being equal (condition, warranty, cooler etc), the 2070 (non super) is the stronger card by ~5% in most cases.

If a new Strix 2070 is cheaper than an Aorus 2060S, then the 2070 would be the way to go IMO

 

[tenukpcgame]

All else being equal (condition, warranty, cooler etc), the 2070 (non super) is the stronger card by ~5% in most cases.

If a new Strix 2070 is cheaper than an Aorus 2060S, then the 2070 would be the way to go IMO

I though the 2060 super is more better than normal 2070 because got the same vram and also recent. I also not sure Is it scam or not for rog strix to be less than 2060 super online.

 

[Jason H.]

I though the 2060 super is more better than normal 2070 because got the same vram and also recent. I also not sure Is it scam or not for rog strix to be less than 2060 super online.

the 2070 is about 5-7% better in most cases than the 2060 super. Say you get 120fps on the 2060 super, you would get about 130fps with the 2070.

It would be up to you to decide wether the price differance is worth the performance. Personally Im getting the 2060 super as it will be fine for my needs. If I was going to get a 2070, I would only opt for the 2070 super.

But no 2070 atm is cheaper than a 2060 super. The only 2060 super more expensive than a 2070 atm is the 2060 super AUROUS or however you spell it, and its about 600$ because it has a lot of rgb on it. Theres no performance differance.

In fact the Gigabyte 2060 super OC WINDFORCE is only 400$ and it has the highest boost clock of any 2060 supers, and thats the one I am getting. Has 3 fans though so case could be a limitation for you.

 

[Barty1884]

I though the 2060 super is more better than normal 2070 because got the same vram and also recent.

In performance, they're very similar - and a lot of people will think the way you are... Newer release = "better".

Ultimately though, you're comparing a beefed up xx60/cut down xx70 card (depending how you look at it) to a xx70 card

Same with a 2070Super. Gets really close to a 2080 in term of performance, offers a great value/performance per dollar etc, but it's not quite a 2080.

But no 2070 atm is cheaper than a 2060 super. The only 2060 super more expensive than a 2070 atm is the 2060 super AUROUS or however you spell it, and its about 600$ because it has a lot of rgb on it. Theres no performance differance.

It's not that surprising. A Strix, yes, that's a bit surprising... But a 2070 (non super) can be had for ~$400 USD (or local equivalent) and most 2060S start around $380.... Not too surprising that a 2070 might be available for less than a 2060S in some markets or from certain retailers.

 

[Jason H.]

In performance, they're very similar - and a lot of people will think the way you are... Newer release = "better".

Ultimately though, you're comparing a beefed up xx60/cut down xx70 card (depending how you look at it) to a xx70 card

Same with a 2070Super. Gets really close to a 2080 in term of performance, offers a great value/performance per dollar etc, but it's not quite a 2080.



It's not that surprising. A Strix, yes, that's a bit surprising... But a 2070 (non super) can be had for ~$400 USD (or local equivalent) and most 2060S start around $380.... Not too surprising that a 2070 might be available for less than a 2060S in some markets or from certain retailers.

Ive been researching both cards for about 2 weeks. On avg the 2070 is about 100$ more than the 2060 super (depending on model) so thats where it comes down to is it worth it to him to pay the differance for the small boost you get? yano? We also dont know if this 2070 is used and thats why its cheaper as well. And I personally will not buy used.

Now yes the 2070 super would be the only upgrade beyond the 2060s that i would personally consider an option when it came to price vs performance. If he cant afford a 2070s, but he can afford a 2060s or a normal 2070, I would get the 2060s everyday of the week over the regular 2070.

 

[Barty1884]

Ive been researching both cards for about 2 weeks. On avg the 2070 is about 100$ more than the 2060 super (depending on model) so thats where it comes down to is it worth it to him to pay the differance for the small boost you get? yano? We also dont know if this 2070 is used and thats why its cheaper as well. And I personally will not buy used.

On average, they may well be.

However, in my last response I linked the cheapest (US), new stock 2070 at $400 and 2060S at $380... So a one-off retailer selling one for less is not that farfetched.

A 2070 is roughly 5% "better" in effective performance so, $380+5% = $399.... The 2070 would have the same effective value for money.

Of course, a $400 2070 is likely making tradeoffs, basic design, louder fans etc .... But for raw horsepower, it is what it ism

No mention of the card being used, so I'm assuming both are new. If the 2070 i used, then all bets are off. I'm not opposed to used cards myself, but the price has to make sense. Personally, i wouldn't pay more than maybe $280 for a used 2070.

Now yes the 2070 super would be the only upgrade beyond the 2060s that i would personally consider an option when it came to price vs performance. If he cant afford a 2070s, but he can afford a 2060s or a normal 2070, I would get the 2060s everyday of the week over the regular 2070.

Not disputing a 2070S being a nice card, I have one.... But if the OP is looking for raw performance, at price parity (or better), the 2070 is the stronger card vs a 2060S. Not by much though, and if aesthetics/noise etc factor into the equation, then a 2060S offering for similar money may be the better way to go.

Beyond being a newer release, can I ask why you'd opt for a 2060S over a 2070 if all else were equal?

 

[tenukpcgame]

Ive been researching both cards for about 2 weeks. On avg the 2070 is about 100$ more than the 2060 super (depending on model) so thats where it comes down to is it worth it to him to pay the differance for the small boost you get? yano? We also dont know if this 2070 is used and thats why its cheaper as well. And I personally will not buy used.

Now yes the 2070 super would be the only upgrade beyond the 2060s that i would personally consider an option when it came to price vs performance. If he cant afford a 2070s, but he can afford a 2060s or a normal 2070, I would get the 2060s everyday of the week over the regular 2070.

this 2070 is new but not so many review. That's y i'm not sure it's scam or not. Mind sharing why you personally pick 2060s over 2070?

I would go for 2060s at first but in term of performance, many has made me choose 2070 over 2060s if the price is equal. You the only one who choose 2060s over 2070. Haha

 

[Jason H.]

On average, they may well be.

However, in my last response I linked the cheapest (US), new stock 2070 at $400 and 2060S at $380... So a one-off retailer selling one for less is not that farfetched.

A 2070 is roughly 5% "better" in effective performance so, $380+5% = $399.... The 2070 would have the same effective value for money.

Of course, a $400 2070 is likely making tradeoffs, basic design, louder fans etc .... But for raw horsepower, it is what it ism

No mention of the card being used, so I'm assuming both are new. If the 2070 i used, then all bets are off. I'm not opposed to used cards myself, but the price has to make sense. Personally, i wouldn't pay more than maybe $280 for a used 2070.



Not disputing a 2070S being a nice card, I have one.... But if the OP is looking for raw performance, at price parity (or better), the 2070 is the stronger card vs a 2060S. Not by much though, and if aesthetics/noise etc factor into the equation, then a 2060S offering for similar money may be the better way to go.

Beyond being a newer release, can I ask why you'd opt for a 2060S over a 2070 if all else were equal?

Hm thats some good info for the op to notate! I mean Id pay 20$ more for the extra 5-10 fps lol just to have it and be on a newer card. So if its only a 20$ differance then yes I would opt for the 2070.

However I research options with like next day delivery so, my expectations may be a little higher than the ops, maybe he dont mind waiting a week for delivery. I just want mine right now lol.

 

[Barty1884]

However I research options with like next day delivery so, my expectations may be a little higher than the ops, maybe he dont mind waiting a week for delivery. I just want mine right now lol.

In your specific case, that's fair enough. But all else being equal (cooler, aesthetics, noise.... Shipping time), 2070 >2060S

 

[Jason H.]

In your specific case, that's fair enough. But all else being equal (cooler, aesthetics, noise.... Shipping time), 2070 >2060S

I just realized hes comparing the 2070 to the 600$ 2060s varient (aorus)... in this case Id choose the 2070 every time. but theres many other 2060s models which would fit his budget a lot better on the 2060s side.

Also the 2060s aorus is not the best 2060s out. the 2060s by gigabyte (oc windforce) is the best 2060s on the market with a 1800mhz boost clock. Its the highest boost clock of any 2060s. So these comparisons are not fair imo. However its a 3 fan cooling system so it could cause more noise but will need less cooling compared to a 2 fan model which results in roughly the same noise level.

 

[Barty1884]

Good point. If they're comparing an expensive 2060S to a slightly less expensive 2070, then all bets are off.

As far as higher boost clocks, out of the box.... From what I've seen, they're pretty irrelevant. With the right temperature conditions, a 2060S ='s any other 2060S clocks/performance (+/-%), regardless of listed base/boost clocks

 

[DMAN999]

I recently bought an MSI RTX 2060 Super Armor OC (for $399).
I looked at 2070's (non-super) but the versions I considered all cost $499 or more.
So for me the 100+ dollars was not worth the slight increase in performance I would have gotten with a 2070.

And as Barty1884 said, my lower clocked Armor OC easily hits 2050 to 2080 MHz using MSI Afterburner to OC it and it runs much cooler even OC'd with a custom fan profile set than they did in the reviews I read.
My 2060 Super idles at around 32-33c and maxes out around 60c when gaming.

 

[Jason H.]

Good point. If they're comparing an expensive 2060S to a slightly less expensive 2070, then all bets are off.

As far as higher boost clocks, out of the box.... From what I've seen, they're pretty irrelevant. With the right temperature conditions, a 2060S ='s any other 2060S clocks/performance (+/-%), regardless of listed base/boost clocks

I dont agree sir. As a MSI 2060s only had a boost clock of 1600 as the gigabyte has 1800, but has a lower core clock (which imo does not matter as Im going to OC it either way lol)

 

[Barty1884]

I dont agree sir. As a MSI 2060s only had a boost clock of 1600 as the gigabyte has 1800, but has a lower core clock (which imo does not matter as Im going to OC it either way lol)

A listed boost clock, yes. That's antiquated marketing though and GPU Boost takes precedence these days.
What marketing says is usually quite a bit lower than what it can actually do. They're listing the max "boost" clock a GPU should be able to sustain without concerning yourself with temperatures.

However, keep a GPU at reasonable temperatures and it'll boost higher.
For example, my 2070S' official "boost" clock is 1800MHz.... It'll sustain >1900MHz out of the box (at <70'C) and ~2000MHz with only the power limit slider maxed in MSI Afterburner.