I want to get the DEll 2405fpw for home use (my comp is general use only). My wife is giving me some grief...not over the price but because she thinks it is too big. Do any of you have an experience with a 24" monitor and how far you need to sit from it?
24" too big for monitor?
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RichPLS
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It isn't that big, sit same as a regular monitor, unless you sit 2" away from a reg one.
But you do need a good graphics card, like a 6800 or X800 or better, for best results.
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But you do need a good graphics card, like a 6800 or X800 or better, for best results.
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I keep it the same distance as any other monitor. Otherwise, what's the point? Tell your wife it's supposed to be bigger.
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Your WIFE think it is too BIG?!?
I think she is just trying to boost your ego, so you do not get worse with your complex, hows therapy going? 😉
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I think she is just trying to boost your ego, so you do not get worse with your complex, hows therapy going? 😉
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Man, you got to make up your mind as to what you want to do.
Do you want to do your computing from the desktop or from the sofa?
If from the desktop, the 24" monitor is too big.
If from the sofa, the 24" is too small.
In either case, you gotta pass on this model.
Do you want to do your computing from the desktop or from the sofa?
If from the desktop, the 24" monitor is too big.
If from the sofa, the 24" is too small.
In either case, you gotta pass on this model.
Best way to look at it is this - 23" & 24" TFTs are basically wide-screen variants of 21" displays (20" WS TFTs are the wide-screen variant of 17" displays). At work there are about 7 2405FPWs, I used one for about 30 min and it seemed about perfect at the back of the desk, I've also heard nothing but good things from the owners.
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Interpretation, your wife told you size doesn't matter, right? 😉
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yes it can imo, used a 30" Apple display for a few hours, it gave me (and others) neck ache if we used all the screen at a usual viewing distance as you have to move your head to look at all of the screen, however on deeper desks (or in the corner of a 'workstation' desk) it was fine effectively giving a higher resolution than a 23 or 24" display.
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I will get one when they can hold a lifesize image of my favorite member.
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As a general rule, a flat panel screen is best viewed at a distance of about 2 1/2 times the diagonal measurement of the screen.
For instance, if the screen is 24" like this Dell, then the best viewing distance would be about five feet.
As I said, this is a general rule. If you get close enough to any screen, you will eventually be able to see the pixels. If you can see the pixels, you certainly are too close to the screen.
Following this guidance, the 24" Dell is too big for the typical desktop. It may work better if your work space is a table where the monitor screen is on the other side of the table from the user.
For instance, if the screen is 24" like this Dell, then the best viewing distance would be about five feet.
As I said, this is a general rule. If you get close enough to any screen, you will eventually be able to see the pixels. If you can see the pixels, you certainly are too close to the screen.
Following this guidance, the 24" Dell is too big for the typical desktop. It may work better if your work space is a table where the monitor screen is on the other side of the table from the user.
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when I can finally afford my Dell 24", I plan on it being about 3 feet from my face.
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for what PAL/NSTC TV? the viewing distence seems to be more related to the actual resolution (86dpi - 19" 1280x1024, 133dpi - 17" 1920x1200, etc...) than diagonal screen size
I have this 24" Dell Monitor for a few months now. it's AWESOME and it's the only purchase I've made that I just out of blue tell wifely how great it is. I can watch TV in the corner and have two full browser windows open side by side plus email in another corner and can see all the programs tabs open plus long menu lists.. It fricking rocks I tell ya. I don't get any neck pain (who said that crazy thing?).
I play games with a GeForce 6600 GT and it does just fine on medium settings. I don't notice any ghosting at all. You can also play with black bars on the side and top so say if you only want to play as though it's a 19" LCD you can. And the black bars make it a nice background for playing actually. But I'm not a huge gamer.
I am a web designer so color is important and I have no problems switching from CRT. I tink it's easier on my eyes after 10 hours sitting in front of the thing. I don't get as tired in my eyes.
Also, I keep the monitor the same distance as my CRT was. Closer actually as there is no more bothersome flicker. I find myself working in the area in front of my eyes mainly but having the other space for open email, tv, desktop items and just plain breathing room is soooo nice. less clutter = relaxing to work on.
But it does get hot. The frinking thing heats up my room as mentioned by others. Wifely doesn't believe my but I hot sitting there even when the rest of the house is cold. I'm thinking of seriously installing some fans in back.
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I play games with a GeForce 6600 GT and it does just fine on medium settings. I don't notice any ghosting at all. You can also play with black bars on the side and top so say if you only want to play as though it's a 19" LCD you can. And the black bars make it a nice background for playing actually. But I'm not a huge gamer.
I am a web designer so color is important and I have no problems switching from CRT. I tink it's easier on my eyes after 10 hours sitting in front of the thing. I don't get as tired in my eyes.
Also, I keep the monitor the same distance as my CRT was. Closer actually as there is no more bothersome flicker. I find myself working in the area in front of my eyes mainly but having the other space for open email, tv, desktop items and just plain breathing room is soooo nice. less clutter = relaxing to work on.
But it does get hot. The frinking thing heats up my room as mentioned by others. Wifely doesn't believe my but I hot sitting there even when the rest of the house is cold. I'm thinking of seriously installing some fans in back.
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I thought LCD's emit less heat than same sized CRT's
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Yeah but you have to remember something, it's all relative... compare say the Dell 2405fpw to say a Sony FW900, having owned a Sony FW900 I can tell you those things put out heat like a 1kw bar fire!
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I don't feel any heat from it. However, the casing is kinda warm to the touch. Never thought about it before.
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Plasma TV's emit a lot of heat. But LCD's are touted as saving energy and running cooler as benifits to CRT's
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my point was that large TFT <b>does</b> put out a significant amount of heat but that is far <i><b>less</i></b> than a comparable CRT.
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Well I'm not sure where the 2 1/2 times diagonal of monitor comes from. Generally the figure I use is about 70 cm from the screen, but that's for regular (i.e. 15" to 19") monitors, which gives a ratio of about 1.6 or so; I've measured my distance and it really is that far away when I'm sitting comfortably at my desk. Is it like the distance where you can see the whole screen without having to move your neck or something? Heh.
But anyway, LCDs emit heat, since they have circuit boards in them and those little wires do have a finite resistance. The heat though comes from the wires themselves, not from other stuff like an electron gun tube, so it's like your computer's motherboard when you have it on for a long time. Since most people mount their monitors vertically, convection usually does a good enough job of drawing away the heat so that it's not a concern. You should leave a couple of inches of space on all sides though so that it doesn't just recycle the same (hot) air over and over, but gets fresh air.
Just feel your laptop after a couple of hours of use. You'll find that the back of the screen is still cool to the touch, even though the laptop itself is warm. This is because for laptops, the screen part is only the LCD panel, with all the other stuff tucked away inside the keyboard half. For monitors though, they're all in the same place, so the monitor will get warm.
But anyway, LCDs emit heat, since they have circuit boards in them and those little wires do have a finite resistance. The heat though comes from the wires themselves, not from other stuff like an electron gun tube, so it's like your computer's motherboard when you have it on for a long time. Since most people mount their monitors vertically, convection usually does a good enough job of drawing away the heat so that it's not a concern. You should leave a couple of inches of space on all sides though so that it doesn't just recycle the same (hot) air over and over, but gets fresh air.
Just feel your laptop after a couple of hours of use. You'll find that the back of the screen is still cool to the touch, even though the laptop itself is warm. This is because for laptops, the screen part is only the LCD panel, with all the other stuff tucked away inside the keyboard half. For monitors though, they're all in the same place, so the monitor will get warm.
I've got an early 23" Sony TFT and that gets warm enough so that you can feel the heat coming off the top of the screen without touching it after a couple of hours use. My 17" (NEC) however stays much cooler the only noticeable heat is from the area the PSU resides.
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I would say this thing is cool. My 19" CRT got pretty hot. I had a 20" monitor built in 1995 and that beast literally said "radiation" on the front of it and was very very very hot.
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ATI X800XL
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