2500k vs 3570k

Temuka

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hi guys,I'm wondering which proc to buy.

I want to buy it now on amazon and sandy bridge 2500k is 220$ and ivy bridge 3570k is 228$ 😀

actually it's not about money,I'm just interested which one to buy ? (I can buy only on amazon)

other main components of system are: 8gb ram 1600 g.skill,Z77 LE asus (GPU isn't yet decided)

thanks in advance :)

I've heard ivy is more hot (actually how that can be when it's new generation) and overclocks worse than sandy

so any advices will be great for me 😉
 
Personally I would say that if you did't originally have a Sandy Bridge processor then get Ivy Bridge but not if you already have Sandy Bridge. For a $8 difference, get the Ivy Bridge.
 


yes,but where are arguments ? :)
 
I just bought an Ivy i5 as an upgrade from a 1st gen i7-870, and I'm personally glad I went Ivy over Sandy because I have the satisfaction of having the latest technology for essentially the same price. Of course newer technology isn't always better, but that's generally the deal. I'm at 4.2 GHz with an Asus Sabertooth Z77 board (auto overclock, did not try to push it yet), and my temps sit comfortably around 50-55C when gaming. Much better than my laptop which idles at that temp LOL
 
There is no argument. Ivy bride is the better one to get..

Yes you cannot OC ivy bridge as much in comparison to sandy bridge but ivy bridge processors are already running near its max capability.

OC will always have its risks, why bother to OC when you can the processors that are already running near is max capability stably without OC and for around the same price..
 

With PCIe 3.0 support, official DDR3-1600 support, mild IPC improvements, updated QuickSync, 15-25W lower power at stock or mild OC, etc.

I personally would not bother with SB either. IB will likely become cheaper as production ramps up and demand levels off.
 

USB 3.0 and SATA-3 are provided by the b77/h77/z75/z77 chipset, a Sandy Bridge can gain "native USB3" by upgrading the motherboard but this would be a somewhat pointless exercise in most cases since most SB motherboards have PCIe USB3 bridges. There is only a slight power efficiency gain (0.5-1W per chip) from eliminating PCIe links.
 


That's a no-brainer. If you have to stay with integrated for a bit, HD 4000 is much better than HD 3000. Still not very good for gaming (since you're getting a GPU, that's not really a problem), but it's a lot better than HD 3000 for Quick Sync as well.
 
Not a single person has said, "Go with Sandy." Unless you are going for record overclocks, it makes sense to me to buy Ivy. That's what I did. :)
 
all right! those two chips are really performance cpu's both are good on thier own places, let say for extreme overclocking you can get the 2500k you can squeeze it as much as you can with a decent cooler, with no worries, on the other hand 3570k has equipped with some awesome features like HD 4000 with less power consumption, the only drawback is that you cannot overclock this chip as the 2500k because it get hot but this is not an issue, max you can overclock 3570k to 4.4ghz which is almost same as the 2500k clocked at 4.8ghz, better you can squeeze it with the stock voltage to get around 4.2ghz same as the 2500k 4.5ghz.
 
OK,I'll take ivy. I have 1 question though,I heard that once in a 3 months comes out new lot of processors which a bit modernized with previous ones(bugs are fixed,heat problems etc) so maybe I should wait for a new lot which comes now ? (first lot of ivys I think was in march) Or maybe I'm wrong cause not sure about this info,thanks in advance :)
 

Companies rarely do respins unless there are major flaws that require fixing or significant yield enhancements since respins cost ASIC companies millions of dollars in engineering, millions of dollars in regression testing simulations, millions in lithography masks, millions in laboratory testing of test production samples, etc. so they cannot afford to go through the whole process for every little bug or do respins just for the heck of it every few months.

Most major flaws are caught and fixed in pre-production steppings, which is why there rarely is more than one or two further steppings after commercial production begins. If you look at Sandy Bridge, most models have had only one post-commercialization stepping.

Unless Intel introduced new significant flaws in IB, it is quite possible that there won't be a new stepping at all.
 
guys,the thing is that I have one IT friend,who is more close to new technologies,components and other similiar stuff. I asked him I need PC only for gaming,so he tells me to buy 3570K + Asus Z77 V-LE,just because 3570K has 4000 integrated video which highly helps discrete GPU and gives nice upgrade for games,motherboard has Virtu MPV and because of that. Simply I don't understand why I can't go with 2500K and for example this mobo : http://us.msi.com/product/mb/Z77A-G43.html

Can someone tell me is which combo is better to take ? (I'll save about 50$ for 2500K + msi mobo,but 50$ doesn't really matter,I just don't like to pay for stuff which I actually can't even use)

Hope you all understand for what kind of advice I'm asking for,thanks in advance :)
 
guys,the thing is that I have one IT friend,who is more close to new technologies,components and other similiar stuff. I asked him I need PC only for gaming,so he tells me to buy 3570K + Asus Z77 V-LE,just because 3570K has 4000 integrated video which highly helps discrete GPU and gives nice upgrade for games,motherboard has Virtu MPV and because of that. Simply I don't understand why I can't go with 2500K and for example this mobo : http://us.msi.com/product/mb/Z77A-G43.html

Can someone tell me is which combo is better to take ? (I'll save about 50$ for 2500K + msi mobo,but 50$ doesn't really matter,I just don't like to pay for stuff which I actually can't even use)

Hope you all understand for what kind of advice I'm asking for,thanks in advance :)
 
For the OP, if you really want to OC the Ivy Bridge CPU, you can try taking off the heat spreader and replace the thermal paste with a better one. I doubt Intel paid top price for the best thermal paste for their CPUs.
 


this will give a better result, but if all you want is a nice OC then no need
 
Little OCing: Ivy Bridge, newer features, less power consumption, and slightly better clock efficiency

OCing without replacing heat spreader's thermal paste: Sandy Bridge

OCing with replacing heat spreader's thermal paste: Ivy Bridge


There was a Japanese website that reported major thermal improvements after they replaced the thermal paste for the Ivy Bridge. Even if you can't OC as well as SB, the clock efficiency should be sufficient to compensate for that.
 


Yeah... Don't try that, lol.

It is what it is. If you want high OC's, SB. If you want slightly better per clock performance (and PCIe 3.0), at the expense of OC ability, IB.