27" monitor and 1080p

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Hey guys,

I'm currently using a 1440p (iMac) screen, I want to go back to windows and get a double 27" 1080p for gaming in one while browsing the web/youtube etc in the other one.

this is the monitor: http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/MX279H/

Will I notice that much downgrade in quality from the imac's 1440p?

Also I want both of them for coding/reading. is this a good idea, or should I go with double 24"s? (because of the image quality in the 27s).

 
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Since you are used with higher pixel density iMac you wont probably like lower pixel density 27" display. In my experience 1080p is not good for desktop use on a monitor which is greater than 22" in size. You find it a bit pixelated every where.
 

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You won't notice a difference between 27" and 24" pixel quality. But downgrading from 1440p to 1080p will have advantages when gaming and watching movies for response time and movies have a max native resolution of 1080p so if your using your current monitor as a media center/home theater pixels can actually be quite distorted when watching movies. but yes the picture quality for games will be worse but 1080p is just fine. If you do decide to go back to dual 1080p monitor I would definately suggest 24 inch over 27. It's the sweet spot. By the way what kind of games are you playing ? I could make a couple monitor suggestions if you like
 

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Hi!

I play mostly World of Warcraft and league of legends, but that's because my current iMac cant handle heavy games, I'm getting a new setup that should allow me to play Far cry 3, gta V (when it comes out), bf3/4, bioshock infinite, bordelands 1/2 etc. I like the Asus one because of the design, but I have no idea if the 5ms (grey to grey) will affect in first person shooters, some people say it will, some people say only pros notice it.

Your advice would be great.
 

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Well first off, most of the grey to grey advertisements are marketing gimmicks. So I wouldn't judge a monitor by that, but what I can tell you is that you will DEFINATELY notice a difference in first person shooters whether you are a professional or a casual gamer. Especially downgrading from 1440p to 1080p the difference can be quite dramatic and I'd say that's the only way to go if you want to play some of these upcoming titles smoothly. It will take a load off of your graphics card and your eyes as well. One thing I would also recommend is to look into 120hz monitors. The refresh rate is double that of a typical 60hz monitor, which most if not all 1440p monitors currently run stock at unless you overclock them which still isn't a good experience in itself.

Now as you said 120hz vs 60hz is something that people argue whether or not the human eye can notice a difference but from personal experience when you stare at a monitor for multiple hours a day your retinas are trained to the refresh rate. I will tell you I have 2 monitors next to each other, one being 60hz the other is 120hz and I can easily tell the difference. Even games that aren't shooters like WoW and LoL appear to run more smooth.

I would recommend looking at the benq XL2420T or some of the Asus monitors you were talking about it will be a worthy investment something I promise you won't be disappointed by.

The low response time on these monitors when I'm playing battlefield and other shooters feels almost instantaneous at the touch of my mouse
 
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23" 24" inch on 1080p looks better then 27" and i recommend going 1440p at that size....Have a look here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vt0CJcUi4w

If your fine with how the 27" on the right looks then you know what to expect at that size/resolution

Edit : Personally i would take a IPS/PLS 1440p any day over a TN 120hz 1080p but thats just me
 

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It depends what your looking for. Picture quality, or response time. The only reason I recommended 1080p for him is because he said he plans on playing fps in the future, and 1440p monitors just weren't made for shooters. Input lag is horrid .. So if you want things to look nice and pretty but you like delay on your monitor stick with the 1440p. As far as the size if the screen it depends how far you sit from it
 

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I guess im kinda use to it..Even tho 120HZ would be better but i dont see to much of an issue with input lag when playing fps but thats just me.
But yea it depends on what you want. As for me i went with 1440p due to picture quality,work space and i couldnt no longer stand a TN panel
 

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Yes everyone is different but you must take Into consideration that he's running an iMac which isn't ideal for gaming so playing at 1440p is quite demanding the for graphics on his Mac . I imagine first person shooters are already a bit choppy for him
 

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That's the reason I don't play FPS at the moment, my iMac isn't good enough to run those games at such resolution. I would chose response time over picture quality if there is quite a difference.
 


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In my experience 1080p is fine for 27 inch monitors. I've gamed on a 27 inch 1080P quite a lot, and it's way better than smaller screens. Higher resolution 27 inch displays are noticeably better, but 1080P at 27 is completely fine, and I don't see the big deal people have with it; it looks great.

I would recommend a 120hz/144hz display only if you play first person shooters a lot, otherwise an IPS panel will be the best solution for higher resolution, better colours, and viewing angles.

If you want a good overall monitor, and can live without 120hz/144hz, then get the PB278Q.

http://www.asus.com/Commercial_Monitors_Projectors/PB278Q/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294&Tpk=pb278q

If you want a 120hz/144hz monitor get a Benq or Asus monitor that supports those.
 

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The thing is, I would much rather get a 1080p because it's overall better for gaming, yet I can't decide if it looks that bad in a 27" and should rather get the 24".
 

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At 1080p i think you should go 24" for the best picture possible
 
There is barely a noticeable difference between a 24 and 27 inch monitor pixel wise, and a 27inch feels a lot bigger. Personally I think 24 inch is way to small for a gaming monitor. <-- This is personal opinion so you may prefer the 24 over 27 for 1080P.

1080P isn't better for gaming either, the higher the resolution will make everything look better. A good IPS like what I recommended above works very well for gaming. Only reason to buy a 1080P gaming monitor is if money is an issue or you want 120hz or higher. I'd rather play at 1440P/60FPS than trying to keep a stable 120 FPS on modern games.

Benq has good gaming monitors: http://shop.benq.us/monitors/gaming.html
 

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He wrote

That's the reason I don't play FPS at the moment, my iMac isn't good enough to run those games at such resolution. I would chose response time over picture quality if there is quite a difference.

So 1440p is out the question. He could go 1080p 27" but i wouldnt recommend it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyGCO3M7m1I start the video at 10:44 you will see why
 

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It depends on how far he sits from the monitor and the quality of the monitor as well. I wouldn't use the linked video as a reference for anything. Reviewers in the video didn't know what they were talking about and were using cheap Korean monitors. You can't really notice a difference in picture quality between and 27 and 24 inch. Personally I prefer 24" but its whatever he likes. He is probably used to 27 but going smaller might actually feel pretty nice
 

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I still wouldnt buy a 27" 1080p everyone has they own opinions but to me content on a 27" at 1080p looks strange and im not the only one that said it and 24" would be better. Its a subjective subject but if he does his research he will see why
 

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I'm going to go back to the original question of the thread hopefully Drask feels some sort of closure to his question. Will you notice a decent drop in picture quality when switching from 1440p to 1080p? Of course. Will you notice a drastic improvement in response time when switching to a 1080p monitor? Yes. That's pretty much where the current technology of displays has things limited right now. You have to pick one over the other. Picture quality or response time.
 
It is a subjective opinion. If you have a good quality panel at 27/1080p you're realistically not going to even think it looks bad at all.

If he is getting a new PC a 770 will handle 1440p fine.

I do also have another monitor he could check out: http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/MX299Q/
 

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I will get an Asus G750JX, which has a 770M with 3GB vRAM, not a fan of the laptop but sadly I still need it to be a laptop for college. Also I have heard cooling in this thing is pretty decent, even for OC.

I guess 1080p would suit better because I don't think that card can handle the 1440p that well, just like my iMac's right now (btw its a 6770m but only with 512MB vRAM)
 

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Doesn't matter what hardware you have. 1440p sucks for shooters. Too much delay/input lag
 


No? Maybe on some older IPS monitors, but no it does not suck.