[SOLVED] 2700x or 10400f ?

[Luke45]

gaming is my only priority but I don't know what is a better value. With 10400f I'll be forced with 2666mhz because the price of z490 is to high. In my country you can find 2700x 185 euros and 10400f 170 euros. So what is a better cpu to go with b450 and 2700x or b460 and 10400f. And are two cores more on 2700x worth it for ''future proofing'' because i am not planning to switch my cpu after buying these ones, and don't reccomend me to pick 3600 because the price of it is 210 euros. And i am planing to add b450 steel legend or B460 D3SH. and the memory il be using with the 2700x is 3200 mhz cl 16 or 3000mhz cl16

 

[coolraveen]

2700x is already two years old and with the advent of 5000 series AMD, the price of 3700x and 3600x gonna fall, my advice is wait for the price fall of 3700x which is a better buy, yes the extra two cores will be useful in games like the upcoming cyberpunk 2077, now 6cores 12 threads are the minimum in most games and some games might use 8 physical cores. That's a trade-off. Anyway if you buy a 3700x now you are good to go maybe 4 years max, but you can't predict future performance. And coming to intel it's motherboard s are costly affair. My advice is 3700x

 

[Schlachtwolf]

I would go for the 2700x, faster base clock, same boost 4.3, 2 more cores, upgrade path available IF you want to, cheaper Mobo, faster RAM...... no competition in my view.

Future proofing is not possible, there is always something newer and better, you buy a RTX 3080 10gb today and bang in 3 months there is a 20gb version and you feel grrrrr. Buy what you need for what you want to do and don't worry about the impossible !!!!

 

[BogdanH]

Differences in games speeds between these two CPU's are more academic than deciding factor (in my opinion). However, overall PC performance will be better with 2700X -simply because it has more cores.
Yes, 2700X is a bit more expensive in your case, but motherboard for it is cheaper (if you buy wise) -so it balances out.

 

[Luke45]

Should i wait then for 3700x then?

 

[ajr1775]

Should i wait then for 3700x then?

Yes but not necessarily the 3700X. Look at all the Gen2 Ryzen prices after November 5th and you well get more performance for your budget.

 

[geofelt]

I vote for the i5-10400.
2700X has 16 threads and a passmark rating of17588. That is when all 16 threads are fully utilized.
Impressive, but games rarely will effectively use more than 4-6 threads. Of more import for games is the single thread rating which is a decent 2438
The i5-10400 has sufficient 12 threads and a rating of 12686 but a superior single thread performance rating of 2604.

On ram, ryzen performance is tightly tied to ram speeds.
The intel ram controller is very good at anticipating ram needs so fast ram does not make much difference.
2666 speed is fine and that is supported by any lga1200 motherboard.
As a plus, I5-10400 comes with integrated graphics which can be a help if you have any graphics card issues.

 

[ragnarok0274]

Wait until November 5th and grab a Ryzen 7 3700x and a B450 motherboard.
You get that nice 7nm process (~15% boost over 12nm 2nd gen Ryzen!) plus your RAM isn't locked to 2666.

 

[thefxgamingrules]

I vote for the i5-10400.
2700X has 16 threads and a passmark rating of17588. That is when all 16 threads are fully utilized.
Impressive, but games rarely will effectively use more than 4-6 threads. Of more import for games is the single thread rating which is a decent 2438
The i5-10400 has sufficient 12 threads and a rating of 12686 but a superior single thread performance rating of 2604.

On ram, ryzen performance is tightly tied to ram speeds.
The intel ram controller is very good at anticipating ram needs so fast ram does not make much difference.
2666 speed is fine and that is supported by any lga1200 motherboard.
As a plus, I5-10400 comes with integrated graphics which can be a help if you have any graphics card issues.

He mentioned a 10400F, which has its iGPU disabled. Though I agree the 10400F will yield a better framerate than the 2700X. Same can't be said for the 3700X and the 5700X.

 

[BogdanH]

Should i wait then for 3700x then?

wait... why? for how long? We all want best for the money, but at certain point (time), we have to decide -even we know, CPU's we can't afford right now, will become cheaper after a while.
Meaning, if your current PC is really struggling, then you need/wish to upgrade now -so, it's pointless to discuss prices in future. However, if you're not in hurry.. yes, it's always worth waiting.

 

[ajr1775]

wait... why? for how long? We all want best for the money, but at certain point (time), we have to decide -even we know, CPU's we can't afford right now, will become cheaper after a while.
Meaning, if your current PC is really struggling, then you need/wish to upgrade now -so, it's pointless to discuss prices in future. However, if you're not in hurry.. yes, it's always worth waiting.

wait... why? for how long? We all want best for the money, but at certain point (time), we have to decide -even we know, CPU's we can't afford right now, will become cheaper after a while.
Meaning, if your current PC is really struggling, then you need/wish to upgrade now -so, it's pointless to discuss prices in future. However, if you're not in hurry.. yes, it's always worth waiting.

At this point we're talking waiting less than a month. I think it would be worth it to wait until November 5th or shortly thereafter, whenever it is the prices on Gen2 drop.

 

[Luke45]

At this point we're talking waiting less than a month. I think it would be worth it to wait until November 5th or shortly thereafter, whenever it is the prices on Gen2 drop.

then im gonna go with 3700x when prices fall down

 

[Luke45]

I saw the hardware unboxed performance test 3700x vs 2700x and i am waiting for 3700x without any question