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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, riku wrote:
> What is the purpose of that petition anyway? What are you asking Valve
> to do, to close down Steam? Or is that petition just a general "Shame
> on you, we hate you!" directed to Valve?
if you want my personal opinion, i would want steam to be declared
illegal and be completely banned from planet earth
> A good petition would tell what the signers want Valve to do, for
> example:
>
> 1. Make it possible to freely transfer individual Steam games between
> accounts, and maybe also to freely unregister the CD key of the CD/DVD
> version, in order to make it easier/possible to transfer the ownership
> of individual Steam games, and generally make it easier to administer
> one's Steam accounts, if someone has several of them (e.g. different
> accounts for the different members of the family with their own choice
> of games). This does not necessarily have to apply to banned or locked
> Steam accounts.
>
> 2. Drop the online validation requirement for the single-player game
> of the RETAIL (CD/DVD) version so that people who rather want to buy a
> stand-alone version of a Steam game can buy one. Use other more
> commonly used ways to protect your copyright on the retail CD/DVD
> version, like DVD checks. People who hate DVD checks can buy the
> non-physical Steam-only version with its online validation etc. More
> choices to the customer = good.
>
> 3. Release Steam game updates also separately so that people can
> download and archive them and update their Steam games manually with
> the update of their choice, if they so wish. Just like they can do
> with all their other PC games.
>
> So doesn't this sound more useful petition? At least Valve could react
> to its points and give their answers why they possibly disagree with
> these points. At least it could be funny to hear their excuses. It is
> like that one anti-piracy lawyer claiming that the only home-users who
> want and need a broadband internet connection are pirates, others are
> fine with a dialup connection for their web browsing and emails. ;-)
at this point in time i have an extreme prejudice again valve and steam
so the only thing i would want is to make steam go away altogether, but
i find your petition proposal very fair, and if you decide to do it, and
i think you should! i will sign-in
personally it addresses what i call the 3 main unnegotiable requirements
when it comes to a publisher selling games
.. availability in physical cd/dvd medium with a buy once use forever cost
.. no activation "ask for permission" humiliation
.. patches freely available and distributed in file format
so Riku i agree with your petition proposal, for me you don't need to add
anything at all cause it addresses all my personal issue when it comes to
steam, so please create it, and i'll be the first to sign-in, but please
do create it! don't make this only another idea but make it reality!
thanks!
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post made in a steam-free computer
i said "NO" to valve and steam
please sign petition "Say NO! to Steam!" available at:
http://www.petitiononline.com/nosteam/petition.html