I know its been posted, but quite a few people are still on the fence-looking for a new gpu, heres what 1 driver update did http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=790821&tp=AMD-R600-HIS&rid=790821 This is usually a good site. Will it beat out the GTX? No. Will it win some benches in some games? Yes. If the XTX hadnt gone down in flames (or almost) being sooo hot, I think it would have won against the GTX. The 2950 will be coming out, at 65nm as reported, itll clock high. If they get their leaking gpu problems behind them, were going to see a nice card. Flames or comments are welcome