2k? 4k 60? Stupid expensive?

axlrose

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I'm struggling to decide what to upgrade my 1080p 60hz to still and looking for opinions. I am waiting for one of the 1080ti's with integrated water blocks to be in stock and then I'm pulling the trigger. I know 2k at 144hz will be a huge step up, but I also feel like the 1080ti is possibly overkill for that (could I get by with a 1070 for example and use the same monitor?). The step up to 4k from 1080p would also be huge, and I've never had a monitor faster than 60hz, so that's also a possibility. What I really want to do is get one of these new amazing monitors this fall that is 4k with 144hz, but I don't think a 1080ti will ever be able to push it, and I'm not looking to replace my gpu in a year or two.

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4k just hasn't really arrived yet, either in videocards or monitors.

For instance, what are your options at 1080p 60hz? Tons. The RX 470/480/570/580...and that's just from AMD. You also have the 1060s, both 6gb and 3gb as options.

Okay, what are your options for 4k at 60hz? See the difference? And that's just for 60hz.

It would be mistake to buy anything 4k oriented now and think it'll be even a couple of years 'future proof'. By the end of this year the 4k sector is likely to be very different than it is now. If you buy into 4k now you do it as an early adopter, which means you do it to enjoy it in the here and now and not because you think the system is going to be good for the next couple of years.

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A 1070 likely won't do 1440p @ 144Hz consistently, with a 1080 likely being a better 'fit' there. A 1080TI would ensure you could do 1440p/144Hz @ High/Ultra for some time.

A 1080TI would be a solid card for 4K @ 60Hz, 4K 144Hz though is likely a bit out of reach without lowering settings or going with SLI.

Personally, I'd look to a "2k" monitor, 144Hz, with >1070
 
Right now the best gaming experience is with the 1440p, 165 Hz IPS screens from AU Optonics that run about $700 from Asus and Acer. They both were showing a 4k panel with HDR at Computex but no word on when and how much... I am guessing by summer's end and the price falling between $1250 - $2000. And yes, you will need twin 1080 Tis to push it. If that's where ya wanna end up, Id wait for them to be around a while, say a year and let prices settle a bit... in which case you'll be looking at the 1180 / 1180 Ti MSI Seahawks


A 1070 at 1440p will give about the same fps as a 1080 Ti at 2160p


 
The 1080Ti is a perfect fit for 1440p 144Hz, it can't quite max all games at 144fps but its darn close and only needs a setting or two lowered to achieve this. The 1080 is also a great choice if your happy dropping settings as needed, a 1070 though I see as a 1440p 60Hz or 1080p 144Hz card. However this is completely dependent on your CPU as high fps relies on the CPU as much as the gpu, what CPU are you using?

 

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Any Nvidia card of this generation is not enough(unless you use sli) for ultra setting 4k setup .1080ti can barely handle 4k at ultra setting unless the game is heavily optimised which you know wont be the case with most games.I would suggest go for 2k with 144hz with gtx 1080 or better wait for vega which is anticipated to arrive by august 1st week.Next Generation cards will be mostly 4k ultra setting cards.
 
here's a comparison of reference cards (1070 @ 1440p vs 1080 Ti @ 2160p)

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As far as 60 - 144 Hz ... you can compare effects here

http://frames-per-second.appspot.com/

 

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You would be good with 2k 144hz screen for now,4k is very expensive as of now . Give it a few years(when 4k becomes a thing) and you will see cheaper 4k monitors with very high refresh rate in the market.Xbox one x and PS PRO will give a boost to 4k adaptation in the market so its only few years when we will see 4k everywhere
 
While I don't think the upcoming AMD Vega offerings will be much better than a 1080Ti (I hope at least it is competitive against it) It might be an option, if available in time.

4k, 60Hz is best suited with a GTX-1080Ti or Titan Xp.

Anything above 4k, 60Hz will require SLI (or Crossfire in the case of AMD) for the time being, with the GTX-1080Ti or Titan Xp

2K can be handled by a RX-580 or GTX-1060Ti, but shines much better with a GTX-1070 or for higher and more consistent refresh rates, a GTX-1080.

1080p, 60Hz+ shines with the 580 or 1060 6GB
1080p 144Hz+ really shines with a 1070.


EDIT: Crossfire/SLI can be a mixed bag as far as performance. With some games, there is a significant difference in performance, and in others, you're better off with a single card when price/performance is considered. (As a side note, not that you plan on doing this, VR will not work with SLI or Crossfire at all.)
 
4k just hasn't really arrived yet, either in videocards or monitors.

For instance, what are your options at 1080p 60hz? Tons. The RX 470/480/570/580...and that's just from AMD. You also have the 1060s, both 6gb and 3gb as options.

Okay, what are your options for 4k at 60hz? See the difference? And that's just for 60hz.

It would be mistake to buy anything 4k oriented now and think it'll be even a couple of years 'future proof'. By the end of this year the 4k sector is likely to be very different than it is now. If you buy into 4k now you do it as an early adopter, which means you do it to enjoy it in the here and now and not because you think the system is going to be good for the next couple of years.
 
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