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$2,000 Capturing and Editing build: 1800X vs 7700K vs 6850K

I'm looking to spend around $2K on building a PC that will mostly be used for Capturing, Streaming, Content creation and Editing video. I'm at a loss for which parts to choose.

I'm not sure which CPU to choose now that AMD has the 1800X. And I do plan on running a GPU (either 1080 or 1080TI or dual GPUs if that is worth it), but I am not sure which choice is best. Will most of the load be handed to the GPU so I'm better off spending more budget on the GPU? And will losing PCI lanes cause me problems in the long run? And do I worry about onboard graphics on the CPU?

I need to put at least 1 capture card in the rig. I honestly don't care about the case aesthetic. I would like to have more than 1 capture card, but if that doesn't fit into the build cost, I can add one later. I would prefer PCI capture card. But I also need multiple USB 3.0 ports, an SD card reader. I would like to have USB C as well.

And I would want to run as much RAM as possible. Standard SSD over M.2 because it doesn't seem like performance/$ is worth it yet.

Does anyone have some suggestions?
 
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Sorry! I didn't want to keep bothering you and think that I was continually putting it off. I just thought that there were going to be some Easter specials or sales/discounts today.

What would you have changed? It's not too late for me to make adjustments. ... I actually had a hard time finding the wireless adapter so I bought from some weird site... I may end up having to buy it from somewhere else but the lowest I could find somewhere else besides ebay was on B&H for $39.99 but for some reason their site does not allow online orders today until Tuesday.
 
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Oh. I wasn't sure if adding the capture card was going to require extra power or not and didn't want to be left short of what I needed. ... Plus I figure if I ever upgrade and need more Wattage I'll have it.

Thanks for your help. I'll let you know when I start building and get some pics or videos uploaded
 
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Ok, here's a stupid question.

The SSD is a 500GB M.2
If I want to add another SSD for use just as my Premiere Pro storage and cache for editing will I be able to do that? Do I have a 2nd SATA available for a 2.5" in addition to the 4TB spinning drive? (I also ended up upgrading to a 4TB from 3TB that you listed because I am a data packrat and will fill it quick)

My plan was to use the M.2 as the OS and keep it as clean as possible.
Can I then install all programs and apps on the Seagate 4TB mechanical? Or should I still install programs onthe M.2?

Then the plan is to store files not being immediately worked on or needing constant access onto the Mechanical 4TB drive
When I edit I want to use a 2nd SSD to move the files being worked on and Premiere Pros cache for quick access and read/write.


I need to buy another SSD for that, but before I do it I want to make sure I have a spot to connect the drive to.
 
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Yes you will be able to, you can store heaps of sata drives, there's more than you'll ever need to use! :)
Remember, given the SSD is M.2, you need to leave your first sata port open, as it occupies the primary drive space technically, and will override it in the motherboard.
There are no performance downgrades from filling up the OS drive, no need to keep it clean at all, just leave about 50GB of space empty for OS and software cache growth over time. Keep all software (including premier pro etc.) and apps on the SSD, they will load much faster, that's why you bought it! 😛
Your HDD storage plan is fine, games and stuff go on there too.
If you want another SSD you're perfectly fine to go ahead and do that.

Your options are to cancel the 850 Evo 500GB and get this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RbvZxr/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e1t0bam
Or to get this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FrH48d/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam
I'd honestly recommend the second option since it's heaps easier to just click the drive rather than navigate 50 folders to get to it.

 
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Nah, I'm keeping the original SSD and just wanting to add a 2nd.

I have 3 more questions

How about this stupid question: the Wifi card may not arrive by the time I start the build.

I can just plug the motherboard in via Ethernet hard wired and still get to the internet for installs/updates right?

Along similar lines, I assume the Motherboard will need to have Bios updates to get the most up to date software... Do I have to do that manually? If I am connected the the internet will it auto update itself? Or do I need to go to a website and then download and somehow flash the board to get it updated?

3rd question: We originally discussed that I was going to need to get an adapter for the Ryzen chipset (I think it was for the cooler). Do I still need to do that? How would I go about doing it? Or do I need to wait until the product arrives so I have Serial #s or something?

Thanks,
Mike
 
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Yep, sure can.
Ethernet is just a direct connection to the internet while the wifi adapter is just a roundabout way of doing it without a direct connection to the modem.
The motherboard will optimally need BIOS updates, yes.
Get that from the product page directly and it should be as easy as installing an exe.
For your graphics drivers get the Nvidia GeForce Experience program, and click express installation after logging in.
For the cooler, I think they're past the stage now where they have to send them separately, and I believe they're coming prepackaged now.
If for some reason it isn't prepackaged with the cooler, you can go to the AM4 signup page on the Cryorig website where you'd need to enter your details and give a product number or serial number.
 
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So Bios update is done by clicking the .exe in Windows itself while running the OS?


Does the NVidia GeFore Experience program have a subscription cost or fee of some kind? Will that auto update the card with it's latest firmware also? Or do I need to flash it? ... I'm used to having to flash things with firmware updates separately from being inside an OS.

I do understand how ethernet vs wifi works, I just wasn't sure if the board would need to have a driver or something installed prior to being able to connect the way wifi cards usually do or whether the board doesn't even need a driver or has one built into its BIOS so it doesn't need additional install prior to being able to communicate.
My concern for this is since the Wifi Card I purchased is coming from what seems like a shady seller/website but if I need to get it elsewhere I can get by using a the ethernet port either hard wired or using a wireless adapter that plugs into ethernet on the device side.
 
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So will the GPU GTX 1080TI auto update itself with the latest firmware? Or how does that work? Do I click an executable file? Does the GeForce Experience software then handle all that automatically? Or will I not need to update the card? I assume they continually make tweaks to it since it was released so recently and they'll likely find bugs and more ways to optimize the card... But maybe I'm wrong.
 
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Oh Shit... I still need to buy a Windows 10 key too right?

What do you think about buying one from Kinguin.net ? I kind of suspect these are stolen keys, but I haven't heard of anyone actually having issues with them...
https://www.kinguin.net/category/22175/windows-10-home-oem-key/

I'm thinking about dual booting with a Linux flavor (likely Mint) but Premiere Pro doesn't run on Linux and will not run optimally with something like wine or a virtual machine, so I definitely need to install Windows 10 (probably the primary install since I know at least back in the day you had to install Windows prior to install Linux or it would cause all sorts of issues).
 
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Yeah, Nvidia's software recognises the card and downloads the latest drivers for it, they're all included under one update for every card anyway.
There's a button on the drivers page of the software that asks you to install the latest driver, click express install, it's all automatic.
They always make tweaks, but given it's based off the same chip as the Titan, optimization should already be there, and the pascal architecture is very similar across all cards, just has to be slightly adjusted.
That's all you need to do.
 
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Ok. So basically as I plug stuff in I should go to their specific website and model and download their driver and install direct from there rather than letting Windows auto install drivers. Got it. Thanks
 
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Yep, the only thing you need a driver update for is the motherboard, CPU updates are rolled out with those, so no need for a separate update in that regard.
Keep an eye out for Ryzen 7 updates though, they're still optimizing, so you might get a BIOS update in the future. Windows auto install is typically fine for some stuff, for mobos though it's better to do it yourself to make sure you have the latest version.
All set otherwise.
 
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for Cache SSD I decided to go with the WD Blue SSD. It seems like it has slightly faster speeds and is less expensive.

Do you see any reason this isn't a good choice? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LWQ9LYV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I can always cancel and buy the other one, but this one seemed like a better drive at a lesser cost.

Also because this is going to be my 2nd drive used for pretty much only Premiere Pro Scratch disk/cache and currently active file storage I can always pop this disk out of my tower and use it in an external case (which I have several of) as external storage if I ever need to take files on an SSD that way. I already have one of my old Crucial M550 128GB SSD's in one of my external drives being used that way now)
 
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The Motherboard and both drives arrived from Amazon tonight. I just opened the box.

So again, to update the Motherboard BIOS I just download and install the .exe

... but so, when I go to install the OS, let's say Windows 10. I assume I can just download a copy to a USB drive and then after I get all the parts assembled in the tower I can hit the power on with the monitor connected and I should see it posting and going into BIOS on the display because the is no OS installed on the drives yet. Then adjust the boot menu/sequence to load from USB first? Then once the install has completed download a new browser and then download motherboard update from website and click executable file and it should update the Motherboard? And also update the Ryzen 1700X chip as well?

Then restart and then go about installing all the specific drivers for all the parts I installed in the tower?

Sorry for all the questions!!
 
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What's weird about the SSD is that Amazon itself has 2 speeds listed. On the Evo Page under the comparison it looks like it is slower, but if you go to the actual WD Blue SSD page it says it is faster under that comparison.

WD Blue is supposed o be a 2016 model while Evo is 2014 model

WD page says its
Optical Storage Read Speed 545 MB/s
Optical Storage Write Speed 525 MB/s

Evo Page say its
Optical Storage Read Speed 540 MB/s
Optical Storage Write Speed 520

So which should I believe?

WD Blue https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LWQ9LYV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Samsung Evo https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OBRE5UE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
 
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That sounds like a better way to do it. I agree with you.

So, if I wanted to add some LEDs? Really I want to add some white if I do, but can I get RGBW lights or only RGB? I don't know much about Aura or how that lighting works... And what about fans? Does the Case come with fans built in? Can I add more? Should I add more? Will it cause the system to run louder if I put more fans in it? Or less loud because each fan will work less hard and spin at slower speed?

These fans? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835103235


Would you suggest I look at getting an AIO Water cooler later in down the road? Will that reduce the noise and make the system run quieter?
 
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FYI Cryorig did not include the AM$ adapter kit in the box. You do need to fill out the form (at least as of the date of writing this).
BUT you can do this prior to receiving the shipment. Just upload proof of Purchase of both the Cooler and the Ryzen AM4 Chipset and they will get it started prior to arrival of the cooler.

http://www.cryorig.com/getam4.php
 
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