2nd generation i7 vs 6th generation i3

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So I'm trying to decide between my current i7-2700k and an i3-6100 because I want to upgrade my motherboard from a LGA1155 socket to a LGA1151. Would my computer be faster, or can anyone recommend me a processor under $200 that would be faster?
 
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Here's the issue. You've got a viable i7 vrs a new i3 or midgrade i5. There's no way the i3 will be viable shortly. 4t or not, games are moving into multiple thread counts, and the 1 example aside, generally the i7 will be a much better overall cpu than either of the 4t cpus. Even cs:go is headed for a multi-thread update with possibly 8 thread usage. Modern games are basically headed for a minimum spec of 4t, with optimal specs of 8 or more t, the i5 will suffer in the end.

My advice is forget Intel for this generation, the amd Ryzen 1600 has all the properties of the i5, including price ranges, yet will outperform even the i7-7700k at production apps, and is a 50/50 tie in games using multiple threads. By far the most cost efficient...
If you're going to change processors, then don't get an i3 6100. The pentium G4560 is just as fast and is half the price. Personally if I had a 2700k I wouldn't consider buying anything other than a 7700k. Why do you need to upgrade in the first place?
 
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My suggestion would be that you get the i5 7500 as it meets your exact budget, and still provides great performance. It is also compatible with lga 1151 so that clears that out of the water.

The other thing that needs to be taken into account is what are you doing with your chip. Are you gaming, editing, or just surfing the web. For gaming, there will be a pretty decent performance increase, but in terms of video editing you won't notice that much of a difference due to the multiple threads of the i7 2700k.

Hope this was of some help!
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- Nate of Ralleon Custom Built
 


My motherboard is fried so I wanted to upgrade it. I was looking at motherboards and noticed most intel ones have an LGA1151 socket so I was wondering if it was worth is to upgrade my processor as well.
 


The i7 2700K is already a really good processor, and I personally wouldn't upgrade if you're able to get a board for under $70

Something else you'd have to consider is if you were to go lga 1151 you would have to buy new ram as well, and that would definitely make the upgrade that much less worth it.

If you haven't already, something I'd look into doing is overclocking your CPU as the sandy bridge lineup contained some REAL good unlocked processors.

Hope this was of some help!
:)

- Nate of Ralleon Custom Built
 


Ya its for gaming. Thanks for the suggestion I might do that.
 
The 2700k still outperforms even an i5 7500 easily, no need to upgrade.
Given your motherboard is fried however, I'd suggest selling your CPU for $200 and grabbing a current gen i7 7700 and B250 board with 8-16GB of RAM which should add up to about $425.
Again, if it isn't broken, stick with what you have, you likely only need a GPU upgrade if gaming performance is an issue.
 


Ok, but do you think the 2700k will sell for 200?
 
Nope, the i5-7500 outperforms it. Check here.

Back to the topic, check the benchmarks above. The i7 would outperform the i3 you listed.
 
They're selling for $200? Lmao, screw keeping it. Get a 7700 and cheap mobo or an R5 1600 and b350 board. You'll have a cooler computer, higher single core performance, DDR4 support, pcie 3.0, usb 3.0+, m.2 support, sata 3 support, etc. There are a lot of things to gain other than just more raw processing power.
 


At stock it gets outperformed by about 10%, but this is easily alleviated by a light overclock.
 
Here's the issue. You've got a viable i7 vrs a new i3 or midgrade i5. There's no way the i3 will be viable shortly. 4t or not, games are moving into multiple thread counts, and the 1 example aside, generally the i7 will be a much better overall cpu than either of the 4t cpus. Even cs:go is headed for a multi-thread update with possibly 8 thread usage. Modern games are basically headed for a minimum spec of 4t, with optimal specs of 8 or more t, the i5 will suffer in the end.

My advice is forget Intel for this generation, the amd Ryzen 1600 has all the properties of the i5, including price ranges, yet will outperform even the i7-7700k at production apps, and is a 50/50 tie in games using multiple threads. By far the most cost efficient upgrade per performance. Pretty much you'll need a 2011-3/x99 to top Ryzen across the board.

And yes GonFreecss, if you look further down the page to the Watchdogs 2, instead of stopping at BF1, you'll notice the i7-2600k OC beats the i5-7500 by @ 10fps min/max and avg. Metro Last Night, the i7 obliterated the i5-7500 by @60 fps. So, 1 game benchmark is not a deciding factor, you have to balance many games and the more games that head into multiple thread optimization like watchdogs 2 or MLN, the better value the older i7 becomes, even if it looses out slightly, it's $50 to replace the mobo or $500 for new mobo, cpu, ram that basically is no different overall.
 
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Not even close. It beats a 4.7GHz 2600K by 4.5% in BF1, and by 21.7% in Total Warhammer. :/
 
Because they're games that are optimized for multiple threads. Anyhow, the i5-7500 is better than the stock i7-2600K in pretty much all cases. They're clocked the same and boost the same. Keep in mind the i7 had hyperthreading and more L3 cache.

 


not purely gaming no it wouldn't

also... I just looked on amazon for z77 boards... it's time for an upgrade.
 


Should that not be a major factor?
Games are becoming multi-threaded quick, and nearly all AAA titles nowadays benefit greatly from the extra threads, especially open world games.
Not worth it to dump money on a CPU that'll perform worse.
 
An unlocked 6th generation i5 performs better than an unlocked 2nd generation i7 in most games, and performs identically in games that make use of more than 8 threads.
 
Again, as I said, if you chuck an OC on the 2700k it will perform much better, the only difference between the two is clock speed and some IPC gains, but put the 2700k at 4.5GHz and watch it fly.
I'll try to find a comparison between an OC'd 2700k/2600k and a current gen or last gen unlocked i5 with an OC.
 
Umm no. Now your out of sync. We aren't talking about a 6600k or 7600k, which have the benefit of higher stock clocks, better architecture and 30% better IPC. We are discussing the merits of op's situation of a i5-7500 locked cpu vrs the older i7-2600k with possible OC. And no again, the i7 beats the 7600k in almost every multiple threaded game that's been optimized for more than 4 threads. Here's a quote directly from that source you provided for us to use.

"If you’re already settling for an i5 from an i7, it’s not much of a jump to go for an R5 and benefit in better frametimes with thread-thrashing games. The i5 is still good, don’t get us wrong, it’s just not compelling enough. It’s not as strong as the i7 is against R7, as the 7700K is still the definitive best in our gaming tests. Going beyond 8 threads doesn’t do a whole lot for your gaming experience, but as we’ve shown numerous times in i5 reviews, going beyond 4 threads does help in consistent frametimes. It’s not required – you can still have a good experience without 8 threads in most games – but that is the direction we’re moving. "

Even those expert people who ran those tests agree, the Ryzen 1600/X is absolutely the best value/performance cpu. Hangs easily with the i5's and doesn't get beat by much other than the i7-7700k. As I said, since op fried his mobo, he has the choice replace it or go with the Ryzen. The outlook for gaming on an i5 gets slimmer every day, and any games the i3 is currently good on, will not be around much longer, even cs:go is already working on a 8thread optimized upgrade.
 
Again, not really. Check here.