Question 2x8GB HyperX Fury 2133 Overclock

[AirBobOne]

As the title explained, I'm looking at overclocking my RAM, and was looking for some guidance.
The MOBO is a Z390 with a 9600k and 2070.
I'm hoping someone has experience with RAM overclocks on this specific MOBO, and if I'm really lucky, those sticks aswell.
Thank you in advance

 

[Aeacus]

I advise against trying to OC the RAM, which doesn't have XMP to begin with. All sorts of issues can come from OC attempt, where in the end, you even can't OC your RAM past the JEDEC default of 2133 Mhz.

But if you want to try it, here's in-depth guide,
link: https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

 

[CountMike]

As the title explained, I'm looking at overclocking my RAM, and was looking for some guidance.
The MOBO is a Z390 with a 9600k and 2070.
I'm hoping someone has experience with RAM overclocks on this specific MOBO, and if I'm really lucky, those sticks aswell.
Thank you in advance

Such cheap and low speed RAMs don't OC well or at all as they have low grade chips.

 

[Hotrod2go]

Sometimes one can get lucky in the silicon lottery & be rewarded with bang for buck glory. Give it a go I say as long as you have the patience & stick to a consistent testing methodology.

 

[lolvatveo]

if you have h mobo and non k cpu earlier than 12th gen, you can't overclock your ram exceed cpu specifications. as I know 8/9th gen cpu will support at least 2400mhz ram. you may have to increase cpu ring ratio (i/o controller), ram timing for more stable. I recommend you to only lightly overclock the ram up to 2400mhz, try reducing the timings and set the command rate to 1. cpu overclocking is much more valuable because you have z mobo and k cpu, don't waste it! Use prime95 to test stability within minutes

 

[geofelt]

Ram is binned.
If your 2133 ram chips were
capable of running at 2400 speed, they would have been used in 2400 speed ram that could sell for moe.
You could get lucky, but don't count on it.

What do you hope to gain?
You will not be able to detect any difference in performance.

You will also find that overclocking ram will negatively impact your ability to overclock the cpu.

 

[Hotrod2go]

OP, I would not listen to the naysayers here about OC your RAM. They are Kingston Hyper Fury X sticks, so they know end users are going to be tempted to test OC on them, otherwise those IC's would have been binned differently.
You have nothing to loose apart from time & electricity to test out an OC on your RAM. Go with MT86 latest version & see what you can do. Having a Z series board & K series CPU is begging for OC.

 

[Aeacus]

They are Kingston Hyper Fury X sticks, so they know end users are going to be tempted to test OC on them, otherwise those IC's would have been binned differently.

You do realize that HyperX Fury is the entry-level RAM from Kingston, right?
HyperX Savage is mid tier. <- What i'm currently running.
While HyperX Predator is high-end. Similar to Corsair Dominator.

You have nothing to loose apart from time & electricity to test out an OC on your RAM.

System instability, data loss, OS corruption and RAM stick(s) failure are also things to loose. How come you conveniently left those out? 🤔

Having a Z series board & K series CPU is begging for OC.

It is an option, not mandatory requirement.

 

[Hotrod2go]

You do realize that HyperX Fury is the entry-level RAM from Kingston, right?
HyperX Savage is mid tier. <- What i'm currently running.
While HyperX Predator is high-end. Similar to Corsair Dominator.


System instability, data loss, OS corruption and RAM stick(s) failure are also things to loose. How come you conveniently left those out? 🤔

So? still doesn't mean it can not be overclocked. Did you read all of my previous post.... apparently not. What does it mean to use MT86 first to test if the OC is stable BEFORE entering the OS environment?
I'll give you a hint, it means to TEST the ram first before important things like OS load... also, if your manually dialled in settings are very unstable the board simply won't boot.

It is an option, not mandatory requirement.

So why did you end up with a K series & Z series combo then? With that logic you'd have saved $ getting a locked cpu & non Z board.

 

[Aeacus]

So? still doesn't mean it can not be overclocked.

Question here is, if it is even worth the time and effort to get e.g 30 Mhz more, where RAM is stable at 2163 Mhz.

As said above, IF the RAM is capable of running 2400 Mhz, it would've been sold as such. Spending time and effort to get RAM running at 2200 or 2300 Mhz is negligible difference over 2133 Mhz. Heck, there's even negligible difference between 2133 Mhz and 2400 Mhz.

So why did you end up with a K series & Z series combo then? With that logic you'd have saved $ getting a locked cpu & non Z board.

I figured that someone eventually asks this from me. 🙄 Follow up questions would be:
* Why did you pay €206.80 for a PSU (Seasonic PRIME TX-650 80+ Titanium) while you could've saved a lot of money and bought PSU that instead costed €80.50 (Seasonic Focus GX-550)?
* Why did you buy CableMod paracord sleeved custom power cables (€175)? Power cables that come with PSU are free.
* Why did you buy CableMod anodized aluminum thumb screws or other CableMod custom sleeved cables (fan cables) and cable combs? They are expensive, don't give any FPS and are just waste of money.
* Why did you buy NZXT HUE+ and AER fans (€70) or Corsair ML PRO LED fans with very expensive magnetic levitation bearing (€30 per 1 fan)? Normal fan costs only few Euros.
And so forth.

You can ask that about every minute component i have in my PC. Heck, i've even "wasted" money not just on one PC, my main one, but on ALL 3 PCs i have. (Your reaction would be: 😱 ) E.g all 3 PCs i have, are using CableMod paracord sleeved custom power cables, external fan controller, high-end PSU, etc. On top of that, i also have high-end UPSes in use, two of them, one for my build, another for missus'es build.

Fact is: How i decide to spend my money, is NONE of your or anyone else's business!

 

[lolvatveo]

so it feels like a waste because the unlocked stuff is for overclocking and you are buying a stuff with overclocking function. whether you buy a lambogoni or a used cheap car is your business, but the z board and k cpu are designed for overclocking, so for overclocking enthusiasts it will truly feel like a waste while you there is no need for overclocking. So it should be locked things with the same specifications, design, performance. The fact that you buy one of the components that has an overclocking feature and pay expensive but don't do anything overclock ever, is clearly a waste, I feel sorry for him if he or someone else only cares about the characters or the rumor that z and k are something cool by its name, I feel cool if I own it and pay expensive. Z and k are for overclocking, there are also many very beautiful, cool b boards design like z boards (only b has differ name z), and non-k cpu's will also be cheaper. yes my thought it doesn't matter what someone wants to buy, but personally when I look at that stuff I always want and have to overclock it, then I recommemd someone overclock to make full use of, like a suggest. ok, so that's my thought, but you can do whatever you want.

 

[Aeacus]

So it should be locked things with the same specifications, design, performance.

What should be and what there actually is, are two different things. In the end, it is not end user's fault of buying K-series chip and not OC'ing, but instead manufacturer's fault who doesn't make equal hardware.

Good example would be i5-13600 vs i5-13600K;
comparison: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_13600-vs-intel_core_i5_13600k

On many aspects, i5-13600K is better than the i5-13600. Most prominent is the P-cores, where i5-13600 has P-cores clocked at 2.7 Ghz base and 5.0 Ghz boost, while i5-13600K has P-cores clocked at 3.5 Ghz base and 5.1 Ghz boost. That's a diff of 0.8 Ghz on base clocks, and that matters. E-cores on K-series are also clocked higher.

IF i5-13600 would be identical to i5-13600K, whereby K-series only offers unlocked multiplier, and then someone buys K-series and doesn't OC it, then yes, getting K-series and without OC'ing would be waste. But i5-13600 and i5-13600K are not equal. K-series is better. It also has more L2 Cache, 11.5 MB vs 20 MB, among other things.

Also, how are things with Ryzen chips in your opinion? All Ryzen chips can be OCd. Should only OC enthusiasts be able to buy Ryzen CPUs? 🤔

Z and k are for overclocking, there are also many very beautiful, cool b boards design like z boards (only b has differ name z)

No. There is chipset difference as well and it isn't just different name, B or Z.
Intel 600-series chipset comparison: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=218829,218832,218831,218833

Most prominent is chipset PCI-E lanes. Z690 has 28 PCI-E lanes, H670 has 4 less, 24 PCI-E lanes. B660 chipset even less, 16 PCI-E lanes. H610 is worst, only 12 PCI-E lanes. And chipset PCI-E lanes aren't the only diff, there are more.

So, a person who requires plenty of chipset PCI-E lanes, should be barred of buying Z-series MoBo just because they don't use the Z-series MoBo to OC the K-series CPU? 🤔