Well the year of production silicium core,Athlon Xp 3200 and my Athlon Xp 1600 its 1999...
For proof check athlon chip big picture 🙂
No efence p4 owners🙂
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000278
Guys what you see now its not my guilty!
Appeal. St_Nikolaus!
For proof check athlon chip big picture 🙂
No efence p4 owners🙂
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000278
Guys what you see now its not my guilty!
Appeal. St_Nikolaus!
Still the $ / GHz ratio of an AMD is hard to beat. I just plugged a Barton 2500 into my system for $95.00 USD, and my system rocks...without OC'n.
Yeah, the Intel is faster...if you got the bucks.
However, the CPU War is GOOD for the industry.
Imagine having a cpu at home more power than the computers used to put man on the moon. I think we did that back in the 286 days....
Thanks,
Bill
Yeah, the Intel is faster...if you got the bucks.
However, the CPU War is GOOD for the industry.
Imagine having a cpu at home more power than the computers used to put man on the moon. I think we did that back in the 286 days....
Thanks,
Bill
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I gess you see the picture.Atholon xp 3200.There in the buttom is label of cpu specification u see?
Check the year of production you will see year 1999.
So intel has Intel celeron 700 in 2001
Amd has athlon xp 3200 in 1999
And recently i buy used athlon xp 1600
On the silicium slice its number 1999 with small
c as copy rights.You see?
This number its year of production.
So amd its THREE years ahead as Intel.
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Check the year of production you will see year 1999.
So intel has Intel celeron 700 in 2001
Amd has athlon xp 3200 in 1999
And recently i buy used athlon xp 1600
On the silicium slice its number 1999 with small
c as copy rights.You see?
This number its year of production.
So amd its THREE years ahead as Intel.
Appeal. St_Nikolaus!
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This doesn't say anything at all. You have absolutely no idea of what Intel or AMD have in their labs in order to draw a conclusion such as...
Who knows, maybe Intel's got dual-core, 800Mhz FSB, 5Ghz Itaniums in store? Or maybe 6Ghz Yamhill-enabled Tejas which are as good as ready with a 1333Mhz FSB?... Or maybe they're just struggling to get Prescott out in time and are seriously delayed for their september launch.
Point is, you can't possibly have any solid idea (only if you work at those places!) of what it is you're talking about... This is all just hypothetical wishful thinking. Didn't mean to offend here, I was just reminding you to be impartial...
I gess i know what you fell.We are talking abaut big steps
of cpus performance.Its seams that amd has cpus schemes
all ready done.I think the main problem its a 0.09 micron tehnlology for now.
Of course not for IBM has a atomic level tehnology.
From 30 ghz to 150 ghz as a tranzistor.
That its alot.
But why not sell a 800 Mhz fsb as the best cpu for pc market its cpu still is for sale.
Why not make agreement as Amd and Intel wich both companies
cant normall survive.
Like now its Intel better now its Amd better.But money its coming.
And wee here in this forum talking abaut so litle diferences.
My uncle,he buy 5 years ago a sound card with 4 dsp cpus on it.He read in some magazine that hes sound card its
strong as four pcs with G4 Motorola cpus.
That its a sound card. Not some sound blaster.
Of course the price of his sound card its 5000$.Now 1000$.
But souncard isnt a market knoun like sound blaster.
Appeal. St_Nikolaus!
of cpus performance.Its seams that amd has cpus schemes
all ready done.I think the main problem its a 0.09 micron tehnlology for now.
Of course not for IBM has a atomic level tehnology.
From 30 ghz to 150 ghz as a tranzistor.
That its alot.
But why not sell a 800 Mhz fsb as the best cpu for pc market its cpu still is for sale.
Why not make agreement as Amd and Intel wich both companies
cant normall survive.
Like now its Intel better now its Amd better.But money its coming.
And wee here in this forum talking abaut so litle diferences.
My uncle,he buy 5 years ago a sound card with 4 dsp cpus on it.He read in some magazine that hes sound card its
strong as four pcs with G4 Motorola cpus.
That its a sound card. Not some sound blaster.
Of course the price of his sound card its 5000$.Now 1000$.
But souncard isnt a market knoun like sound blaster.
Appeal. St_Nikolaus!
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For the love of god that is not the time AMD made the AthlonXP!
Otherwise even the first Athlons would've been done in the same year.
THIS is the YEAR of THE ATHLON INTRODUCTION, the ATHLON TRADEMARK.
In 1999, the K7 was unleashed, in 1999, therefore, the Athlon name was created.
This is just that, because it would NOT make sense if it were a date for ALL AMD's CPUs!
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Otherwise even the first Athlons would've been done in the same year.
THIS is the YEAR of THE ATHLON INTRODUCTION, the ATHLON TRADEMARK.
In 1999, the K7 was unleashed, in 1999, therefore, the Athlon name was created.
This is just that, because it would NOT make sense if it were a date for ALL AMD's CPUs!
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Most transistors you hear of who have huge ghz numbers are not the kind you use in processors, many are just radio transistors. Ghz was first and should have always been the standard for the frequency of a wavelength on the electromagnetic spectrum
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Hm... I'm afraid Hz, as in Hertz, is not limited to a measure for the frequency of a specific electromagnetic wave. (BTW, there is no such thing as a frequency of a wavelength )
Hertz is a universal unit for measuring cycles per second, or cycles per unit-time. It is used in a variety of areas, including, but not limited to, radio waves, microwaves, X-Rays (all of which are electromagnetic waves), alternate current frequencies, engine rotation speed (consider that 60rpm is actually equivalent to a 1Hz rotation!) and computer chip clock cycle frequencies.
) Hertz is a universal unit for measuring cycles per second, or cycles per unit-time. It is used in a variety of areas, including, but not limited to, radio waves, microwaves, X-Rays (all of which are electromagnetic waves), alternate current frequencies, engine rotation speed (consider that 60rpm is actually equivalent to a 1Hz rotation!) and computer chip clock cycle frequencies.
Consider.If Motorola makes new MC68000 cpu with atomic micron level it will be so small.There will be no heat like 55 celsius and power usage 60wats.
Simple flipflop (1 or 0) use FOUR TRANSISTORS and some pasive parts like capatisators and resistors.
First steps for store data like in cpus,memory chips.microcontrollers...
Just my thinking..
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Simple flipflop (1 or 0) use FOUR TRANSISTORS and some pasive parts like capatisators and resistors.
First steps for store data like in cpus,memory chips.microcontrollers...
Just my thinking..
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I believe he is refering to the amount of transistors needed to store memory, and if I am not mistaken, it takes 4 transistors in SRAM to store memory with no leaks possible. (compared to single transistor cells in DRAM which need to refresh periodically)
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Ok let do a little faq about electonic
1 CPU and most of Computer relate part use MOS-FET in CMOS setting.
MOS = Metal oxyde semconducteur explaination a transistor amply current.The transistor can be lock or let and amply the current.All CPU transistor is allwayse lock unless the AC come to unlock it.
AC and VCC
VCC or voltage continue current mean the voltage have allwayse the same pole in your little pulg on the wall the 2 or three slot Pole 1 and Pole 2.(house current work on AC do).
AC have frenquency mean the negative pole and the positif pole will change every X in a second in the wall plug is 60 hertz mean 60 time per second. IN a P4 mean the negative pole and the positif will change 3 000 000 000 time per second.
Now FET Field effect transistor will use Voltage via the gate to lock the tansistor.They normal have 1 region N or P.
CMOS complementary metal oxyde transistor.I have allready explain MOS the C mean complementary in normal Gate (mean a fonction and-or-inverse) can use TTL (transistor transistor Logic) or CMOS.TTL have bolt region P and N but are much more complex to produce unlike CMOS but need complementory from 1 MOS-FET with N 1 with P.
NO in a cpu the transistor is lock at 1.5 VOLT if the AC add 0.1 volt or 0.3 volt it will unlock and send a logic value of 1 if not still send 0 volt and be consider as a 0 logic.
After ward it just matching stuf.
By the way a bascule of Flip-Flop use 2 gate so about 8 transistor 8*512 000*8 = 327 680 000 transistor for 512 KB of transistor.This is not the good number but give you a idea
I dont like french test
1 CPU and most of Computer relate part use MOS-FET in CMOS setting.
MOS = Metal oxyde semconducteur explaination a transistor amply current.The transistor can be lock or let and amply the current.All CPU transistor is allwayse lock unless the AC come to unlock it.
AC and VCC
VCC or voltage continue current mean the voltage have allwayse the same pole in your little pulg on the wall the 2 or three slot Pole 1 and Pole 2.(house current work on AC do).
AC have frenquency mean the negative pole and the positif pole will change every X in a second in the wall plug is 60 hertz mean 60 time per second. IN a P4 mean the negative pole and the positif will change 3 000 000 000 time per second.
Now FET Field effect transistor will use Voltage via the gate to lock the tansistor.They normal have 1 region N or P.
CMOS complementary metal oxyde transistor.I have allready explain MOS the C mean complementary in normal Gate (mean a fonction and-or-inverse) can use TTL (transistor transistor Logic) or CMOS.TTL have bolt region P and N but are much more complex to produce unlike CMOS but need complementory from 1 MOS-FET with N 1 with P.
NO in a cpu the transistor is lock at 1.5 VOLT if the AC add 0.1 volt or 0.3 volt it will unlock and send a logic value of 1 if not still send 0 volt and be consider as a 0 logic.
After ward it just matching stuf.
By the way a bascule of Flip-Flop use 2 gate so about 8 transistor 8*512 000*8 = 327 680 000 transistor for 512 KB of transistor.This is not the good number but give you a idea
I dont like french test
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