(3) 3D Monitors in EYEFINITY is it possible?

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Hey Guys,

So i have searched and searched but no straight answer with actual facts and DATA!.

**CAN YOU DO (3)THREE 3D Monitors in EYEFINITY MODE(One Giant Display Across)

If so what monitors have been used and tested for this. Whats your setup? PASSIVE or ACTIVE? Best Graphics Card for THIS?

I already know about the monitors that are compatible and where to find the drivers* http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/Pages/supported-hardware.aspx *

I would like to see actual setups before a very pricy purchase. Looking towards the LG Cinema 3D D2342P.
Single Big monitor is not an Option. The Advantage of EYEFINITY is Great for more peripheral view in the Gaming World.

UPDATE**** In Post Number#4 I explain THAT I ALREADY know how EYEFINITY is Supported and how Active Adapters are needed. I build EYEFINITY setups almost every week for clients. I have never build a 3D EYEFINITY setup hence this POST!. Thanks In Advance!


My Current Setup

FX-6100 (6-Core)(Auto Tune) 4.12GHZ
ASUS M5A99X AM3+
16GB Corsair Vengance 1600mhz
Corsair H6O Liquid Cooler
Corsair GT 180gb SSD
Corsair 600T Graphite Series Case
900w Antec Current Gamer PSU
ASUS EAH 6950 2GB OC/920Mhz
Triple 22" Monitors EYEFINITY
 
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Currently, Eyefinity does not offer HD3D, but Nvidia 3D surround does.

It's possible in the near future that will change. I've seen something written down that might have shown that AMD is working on the technology along with allowing crossfire to work with HD3D, which currently it does not (which would make trying to play HD3D across 3 screens nearly impossible).
 
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Yes, it is possible. Tom's posted a story about sapphire doing a set up like that last year. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ATI-Eyefinity-3D-3D-Gaming,10742.html

Opinions I've heard more recently suggest waiting till the 7xxx series gpu's are released http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/eyefinity-stereo-3d/

As far as adapters go, use only ACTIVE display port adapters. I have yet to hear of anyone getting eyefinity to run successfully with passive adapters.
 
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I know how the EYEFINTY Setups are. I sell at least 1 EYEFINTY setup a week. I currently have two demo's at my Shop. My Youtube Video on a Setup we built on a budget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=984ZDWxZgFY
I know all about Active DP adapters and YES you need at least one of your displays to have a Active ADAPTER to work in EYEFINTY, if you dont then the monitors will all show up as Independent monitors instead of one Giant Image.

Yes i Have seen the Sapphire Setup, but as you have seen their demo, there is little to no information on how they have the setup.

I have done it all when it comes to EYFINITY, Triple Monitors, 6 Monitors and even 8 Monitors for a Independent Stock Market Client of mine.

But never have i tried or looked into 3D EYEFINITY since not many 3D monitors are made and/or affordable. Im Curious and i want to build one now.
So anyone know anyone that has one or has seen one?
I have read about the 7XXX series but still very little info on how to build a proper 3D EYEFINITY Setup. This sounds like something we should tell newegg to do and post a Video on it.

So anything ANYONE?
 
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A) Use the latest AMD Driver 11.12:
Release Notes: "Enables support for AMD HD3D technology when using a 3x1 Landscape Eyefinity display group, on supported DisplayPort 3D monitors."

B) Get a Graphics card that has at least 3 mDP/DP ports
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH6970_DCII2DI4S2GD5/

C) Get 3 x 3D Monitors with DP input
For example the Samsung S27A950D (or S23A750D)
 
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NOW WE ARE TALKING!!! ok...my ASUS EAH6950 2GB Card has 2 DVI and 4 Display Ports.

Now THEORY?
**Could i make it work....USE 3 DP ports. Using 3 DP to HDMI(one of these being an Active adapter because we all know at least one Adapter needs to be Active so it works in EYEFINITY) and hooking it up to Three LG Cinema 3D monitors. Could this really be the setup we seek?

or Could we still have FLAWS? Must it be DP to DP?. if so, Must they Be Active DP Adapters? or Straight Shot DP cables? Hmmm...Questions!? So Many Questions!?
 
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No. The added HD3D support in 11.12 is specifically for DisplayPort Monitors, not through adapters.

In theory, you could connect 2 of the 3 LG Cinema 3D monitors via DVI, and 1 of the 3 LG Cinema via active DP to DVI adapter, but you would need to depend/wait on TriDef or IZ3D to support 3 monitor 3d line interleaving.
(Your DP to HDMI setup would work, but is more expensive)

What I gave in the previous post is the simplest setup given the new supported feature in the driver. For games with native 3D support, such as DeusEx:HR and Dirt 3.
 
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Alright Now we getting somewhere... Well sweet now what are the best drivers to support that 3rd 3D monitor? you say IZ3D how would this work or am i reading to much into it and you say"not available yet"?

Now i know you can, for what i have read that ATI HD3D can pretty much convert games into Stereoscopic 3D which in theory thats what these monitors are for Stereoscopic 3D right?

ADDING another GPU is not an issue, i have quite a few in Stock.
But if Im correct Crossfire Support in HD3D is not available with the 6950 right? Crossfire would make a difference in regular EYEFINITY, but switch to 3D and it acts as if theres only one Card right?

So going back to the ADAPTER SETUP.....

AVAILABLE OPTIONS
Without issues and Current Catalyst Driver 11.12... is 2 passive DP to HDMI and 1 Active DP to HDMI , 3-LG Cinema 3D 23" Monitors with Passive 3D Glasses. and we dont require no thrid party drivers RIGHT? Do we have a solution!?

or

3-DP to DP...all passive adapters or straight shot DP cables(or does one have to be Active?) and 3 3D monitors with DP input and Current Catalyst 11.12 driver
 
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That won't work unfortunately. AMD's version of HD3D requires frame packing when it's sent from the gpu to the monitor, and DVI does not support that.

Also, HD3D requires HDMI 1.4a (for the frame packing) to work over HDMI, but if you do choose HDMI 1.4a, you are limited to either 1080p @ 24hz or 720p at 60hz (per eye).

The only thing I'm not 100% certain is whether you find converters that will convert DP to HDMI 1.4a and maintain the frame packing.
 
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Are you sure of that ?
All the reviews on the HD 7970 indicates the full support of Eyefinity 3D and CrossfireX support in stereo 3D mode.

Even for the current HD 6k series, the CCC 12.1 preview supports CrossfireX in 3D
From AMD
The AMD Catalyst™ 12.1 Preview includes all of the features found in AMD Catalyst™ 11.12 and also includes all of the latest optimizations found in the AMD Catalyst 11.11c performance drivers (AMD Catalyst 11.12 does not include the latest 11.11c optimizations). It is highly recommended that all gamers use the AMD Catalyst 12.1 Preview driver.

Feature highlights of the AMD Catalyst™ 12.1 Preview driver:

AMD HD3D technology support enhancement
· Enables support for AMD HD3D technology in conjunction with AMD CrossFireX configurations
· Delivers a new Stereo 3D mode over HDMI 1.4a connections - 1080p at 30Hz is now enabled on supported displays.
Click to expand...
 
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Yes you are correct about AMD's HD3D (quad-buffering) using frame packing to transmit 3D, and that this will not work over DVI.

What I was suggesting is an alternative option of not using AMD's HD3D to drive the 3d content. This is going to be incredibly confusing for me to explain, but...
Since these LG 3D monitors are passive interleaved monitors (versus the Active shutter 3D) you can cheat and have the software(DeusEx)/middleware(IZ3D/Tridef) do drive all the 2D -> 3D conversion. Hence the GPU doesn't really know it's driving 3D content, but it works because the monitor is always in 3D mode.

To put this in perspective, if you opened up MSPaint and drew a single pixel horizontal black line followed by a single pixel horizontal white line, and did this down the entire screen and put the 3D glasses. One eye would see all black and one would see all white. Now if you spliced an image on all the black lines, and spliced another image on all the white lines, you would see the respective images on each eye. This exactly how you can cheat with these passive 3D monitors to display 3D, with the GPU knowing it's driving 3D content. I know "certain" gameswill support "certain" passive 3D monitors and do this.

There are no active DP to HDMI 1.4a currently in the market as far as I'm aware. Only HDMI 1.3 which will not work.

 
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You are Right, no luck on Active DP to HDMI 1.4a. only in passive.

So the Big Question is HOW DID SAPPHIRE MAKE THERE 3D EYEFINITY Build?, they say the monitors and mention IZ3D, but thats it, no graphics card or Adapters used or configuration!?.

Im ready to drop some cheese and get this build complete but hate to buy and not have the right Hardware.

Yes i have herd about Catalyst 12.1 and it upcoming features to Crossfire HD3D and Delivers a new Stereo 3D mode over HDMI 1.4a connections - 1080p at 30Hz is now enabled on supported displays.

But what does this mean, there are still hardware required to make this happen, BUT WHAT?! WHAT ADAPTERS?!,

There has got to be someone out there that has a current triple Monitor 3D EYEFINITY setup! I cant be the only one attempting this besides Sapphire.
 
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As the other poster showed, they did JUST release drivers to support this. I was aware that it was coming soon, but I was not aware that it just went into the last drivers.

Though it is required to use DP or HDMI 1.4a connections.

OkMan may have a way to get around the requirements, if he's right.
 
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Well lets see what the Graphic Cards Have,

My ASUS EAH6850 2GB has 2 DVI and 4 DP
Other Card MSI Twin Frozr III 6850 2GB has 2 DVI 1HDMI 2 Mini DP,

What what do we need as far as Adpaters? how many Active? from who? Accell or XFX? what Monitors? LG Cinema 3D connection type D-Sub, DVI, HDMI?

What Software?

I have sent Newegg a Request for them to Maybe do a Demo build on their youtube Channel with Description and Parts, this could be good for ASUS since they have all the Name Brand Parts, ASUS card and 3D Monitors. Works in their favor and Customers will follow.
 
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I would love to call them, but usually you can never get past technical support which half the time they dont know anything, they just read and punch in your issues and read what we already know for what they provide online.

If anyone knows a good number to contact them directly and talk to a ATI Guru that would be great.!
 
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OK well aint giving up yet!,......but......i read a thread someone already ordered a 7970? Possible? how and from who can we get one? id like to order one for Giggles and put a demo up!

ANYONE? WHERE CAN WE PRE ORDER OR LOOK AT FUTURE PRODUCTS OF THE Radeon 7970? Not the Reviews we already know but! to purchase one!?
 
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Stop shouting.
 
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In Simple, To pretend to be dumb and ask questions gets you answers. Combine all that information and only experienced personnel get the whole picture.

We are here to gather Intel. Not to judge whether we are in business or not. Keep your opinions to yourself and respect others the way you wanna be respected.

FYI: If you would've done your research like true professionals do, then you would know the truth and you would not be jumping to assumptions about my company.

Now like good ol' Policy Says...stay on topic.

So anyone know where to Order a Radeon 7970?
 
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Trying to contact Sapphire and see what they tell me in regards to the setup they have, already contacted Newegg TV and suggested a Demo.

Also trying to look up and see where or who will be releasing Their 7970 cards, Im Down with ASUS or XFX. Anyone herd anything?
 
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Just to elaborate on the initial config I was recommending:

A) Use the latest AMD Driver 11.12 (or 12.1 preview for Crossfire support):
Release Notes: "Enables support for AMD HD3D technology when using a 3x1 Landscape Eyefinity display group, on supported DisplayPort 3D monitors."

B) Get a Graphics card that has at least 3 mDP/DP ports
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards [...] 2DI4S2GD5/

C) Get 3 x 3D Monitors with DP input
For example the Samsung S27A950D (there's also the S23A950D, S27A750D, S23A750D)
I'd recommend using these over the LG Cinema so you can take full advantage of the AMD HD3D technology (quad buffer -> 1080P @ 120hz)

D) 3 x DP to DP cables for connecting the monitors to the GPU (If your GPU has mDP, then you'll need standard mDP to DP adapter, there no such thing as active mDP to DP adapter http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-dongles.aspx)

E) Software (This is where it gets tricky)
Two "potential" options for this:
i) A game title with native 3D & eyefinity support (Look at DeusEx:HR, Dirt 3, BF3...)
ii) Use middleware to do 2D -> 3D conversion (Look at Tridef, IZ3D)
 
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Genius!... Now i see exactly what you mean. I will be getting a 7970 to put in stock the first chance i get but no luck so far on where to get one.

So im trying to do a nice 3D setup with the 6900 series. They are obviously gonna get lower in price the moment the 7 series come out which will be great for my customers.

Update***just picked up 3 of each of the LG Cinema 3D yesterday and The ASUS 23" 3D Monitors as well. So im Excited to see the end results. I know the LG Cinema 3D doesnt have any DP ports so im pushing and see if i can get the DVI and DP setup to do it or Dual Link DVI and HDMI and DP port. If it dont work then I'll just put together a Dual GTX 560 Ti SLI with the LG monitors in NVIDIA 3D Vison Surround and push it out the door.
 
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