300Mb/s download 20mb/s Upload yet youtube videos still buffer

[i3arty]

Hi all.
I have 300mb/s download and 20mb/s upload internet speed so assuming this videos and browsing should be really quick.
Unfortunately when i play videos on youtube i need to wait about second or 2 before it stars and then it doesnt buffer all the video but just tiny bit. And whenever i wanna skip to some other part i need to wait for it to buffer a bit maybe a second or 2.
Also browsing on the internet seems to be slow too, i would imagine with such speed just clicking search and its already there but i need to still wait second or so for it to load. I had 100mb/s download speed and upgraded to 300mb/s thinking it will be much faster loading and everything but nope i can't tell a difference.
Any idea guys ?

Specs : Intel core i5 3750K
Amd 7950HD 3gb
Memory vengeance 8gb 1600mhz


Thanks !

 

[Jesse_20]

You are most likely bottlenecking your video without a graphics card. The cpu is then responsible for decoding video and running the system, which could introduce the buffering you see.
Adding in a dedicated graphics card (even a very cheap one) would help tremendously.

 

[RCFProd]

Have you done a speed test to actually determine you're getting the download and upload speeds you're listing?

 

[kaptainkuftic]

So, think of the internet like a series of pipes. Each pipe has a different size (10mbps, 15 mbps, 100mbps, etc.), and each pipe is moving water through it.

Increasing you down/uploads is increasing the size of that pipe. Essentially, now your pipe can fit much more water through it. The problem is that if 10mbps of water is flowing through that pipe, it doesn't matter if you have a 10mbps pipe or a 500mbps pipe, that water is flowing the same way through it. So now you can have up to 300mbps of data flowing through to you, but if only 50 mbps leaves at any given time, you're only getting 50mbps. At least, that's how it was explained to me.

It could also be that you're being throttled, or you're on unreliable WiFi, or you're losing packets somewhere along the line, or tons of other people are on the network, etc.

(god I hope that analogy is correct)

 

[Jesse_20]

So, think of the internet like a series of pipes. Each pipe has a different size (10mbps, 15 mbps, 100mbps, etc.), and each pipe is moving water through it.

Increasing you down/uploads is increasing the size of that pipe. Essentially, now your pipe can fit much more water through it. The problem is that if 10mbps of water is flowing through that pipe, it doesn't matter if you have a 10mbps pipe or a 500mbps pipe, that water is flowing the same way through it. So now you can have up to 300mbps of data flowing through to you, but if only 50 mbps leaves at any given time, you're only getting 50mbps. At least, that's how it was explained to me.

It could also be that you're being throttled, or you're on unreliable WiFi, or you're losing packets somewhere along the line, or tons of other people are on the network, etc.

(god I hope that analogy is correct)

You have the analogy correct, but youtube shouldn't have any issues supplying a steady stream. It's more likely on the user's end.

 

[kaptainkuftic]

So, think of the internet like a series of pipes. Each pipe has a different size (10mbps, 15 mbps, 100mbps, etc.), and each pipe is moving water through it.

Increasing you down/uploads is increasing the size of that pipe. Essentially, now your pipe can fit much more water through it. The problem is that if 10mbps of water is flowing through that pipe, it doesn't matter if you have a 10mbps pipe or a 500mbps pipe, that water is flowing the same way through it. So now you can have up to 300mbps of data flowing through to you, but if only 50 mbps leaves at any given time, you're only getting 50mbps. At least, that's how it was explained to me.

It could also be that you're being throttled, or you're on unreliable WiFi, or you're losing packets somewhere along the line, or tons of other people are on the network, etc.

(god I hope that analogy is correct)

You have the analogy correct, but youtube shouldn't have any issues supplying a steady stream. It's more likely on the user's end.

Thank you for letting me know 😀. I don't know a whole lot about networking

 

[i3arty]

You are most likely bottlenecking your video without a graphics card. The cpu is then responsible for decoding video and running the system, which could introduce the buffering you see.
Adding in a dedicated graphics card (even a very cheap one) would help tremendously.

That would make sense as my other problem is high CPU usage when i was high quality videos such as 4k or ultra HD sometimes it even goes 100% and when it does it laggs the video.
But my graphic card is good i think in my opinion it should do its job

 

[R_1]

You are most likely bottlenecking your video without a graphics card. The cpu is then responsible for decoding video and running the system, which could introduce the buffering you see.
Adding in a dedicated graphics card (even a very cheap one) would help tremendously.

That would make sense as my other problem is high CPU usage when i was high quality videos such as 4k or ultra HD sometimes it even goes 100% and when it does it laggs the video.
But my graphic card is good i think in my opinion it should do its job

I have that card and have no issues at all with video, CPU is 955 black at stock so it isn't my CPU making up the difference. who is your ISP?

 

[Jesse_20]

Somehow I missed the amd card in your list. I was under the assumption you were using intel integrated graphics.

You might try uninstalling your video driver with DDU (found at 3dguru.com) and reinstalling the newest one.
It sounds like your CPU is bottlenecking things while trying to decode high quality video though.
Try closing down any background apps and antivirus (Big system hit usually) and watch some more high quality content to see if the issue persists, or if CPU usage has decreased.

FWIW, my i7 surface book with NVidia GPU and ssd has a pause of a second or two while skipping ahead on 4k streams. Are you sure you aren't just impatient? 😀

 

[RCFProd]

When was the last time you did a fresh Windows install, with your drives formatted?

You're lagging in general browsing too, not just video. Don't think It's anything hardware related.

 

[i3arty]

Somehow I missed the amd card in your list. I was under the assumption you were using intel integrated graphics.

You might try uninstalling your video driver with DDU (found at 3dguru.com) and reinstalling the newest one.
It sounds like your CPU is bottlenecking things while trying to decode high quality video though.
Try closing down any background apps and antivirus (Big system hit usually) and watch some more high quality content to see if the issue persists, or if CPU usage has decreased.

FWIW, my i7 surface book with NVidia GPU and ssd has a pause of a second or two while skipping ahead on 4k streams. Are you sure you aren't just impatient? 😀

I reinstalled the driver with ddu in safe mode all everything as recommended and same problem.
I turned off malware bytes and eset anti virus and while watching the video 4k 60fps it never got up to 100% the cpu usage [which caused freeze for second or so ] But the video is no where near 60fps more like 20fps still lagging and buffers every 3-5 seconds of video and the CPU usage is always 91-99%

Edit: On microsoft edge the video runs smoothly in 4k 60 fps all as it should but its takes lot to buffer/buffering every 5 seconds and also the cpu usage is high but not as high as on chrome usually 70-90%

 

[Jesse_20]

Have you tracked the RAM usage when watching? Short times between buffers are usually due to less memory available to buffer to.
The surface book I mentioned has 16 GB Ram, and I get about 20 seconds buffered ahead with that setup. MY desktop ( I7 7th gen) w 32 GB Ram has absolutely no lag when skipping ahead, and offers a full 2 minutes of buffered video.

What about disabling extensions in chrome? My next option was to have you check with different browsers but you beat me to that one.

 

[i3arty]

Memory usage is not much the chrome exe [where playing vid just uses about 300-400mb] and shows 40% memory usage RAM, and i dont have extensions in chrome and the other browsers such as edge uses tiny bit less cpu as i said above instead 98-100 it uses about 70-90% but the memory usage is higher about 400-600mb but it runs smoothly on edge just buffers a lot idk why

 

[kyzarvs]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from i3arty : "Fast internet slow youtube ?"

Hi all.
My internet is really fast download as well as upload [picture included of speed test]
the problem is that youtube videos loads slow, having such speed i expect the video to buffer all the way quickly ? but it only buffers about tiny bit so whenever i wanna skip to some other part of video it buffers for about 0-2 seconds.
Is there anything i can do to make the youtube/browsing faster and/or make the youtube video buffer all the way ?

http://imgur.com/XfGgROr

Thanks !

Not sure why Youtube resets the buffer if you skip, could try ask them why. Certainly not to do with you though.

https://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/282927-youtube-videos-reset-when-skipping-through-buffered-parts.html

Ask your ISP if they are traffic-managing your connection at all.

Curious as to how you got a 0ms ping result?

Apparently im not as i have fastest internet package with ''300 then you won’t be traffic managed on your download or upload activity.''

Apparently im not as i have fastest internet package with ''300 then you won’t be traffic managed on your download or upload activity.''

Just because they say it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

We had a very long argument with our then-supplier (of corporate-grade connections) where we proved dozens of times that traffic was being managed on 'non-managed' lines. Long story, court case and now I run an ISP as well as an IT business 😀

...but I'm sure your ISP is ethical and it's something much less nefarious

 

[i3arty]

So should i just contact virgin media ? and ask them if my traffic is being managed ? or what can i check it my self somehow