3570k@4.5 vs fx 9590 whats better?

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The i5 wins by quite a lot. If you are doing any heavy threaded workloads (encoding video etc) then the FX is a good choice but not the 9590, the 8320 is comparable to the i7 in SOME workloads.
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9590 is fail in terms of price/performance ratio- as an AMD enthusiast I say just so you won't think I'm a Intel fanboy.

You could go for Xeon 1231 OR 1240 of you don't have H97 or Z97 platform. Very cheap... relatively speaking!
 
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Sorry I'm not getting a new CPU. My friend keeps saying his 9590 is superior for gaming. my reply is that my CPU@ 4.5 is faster than Maxwell@stock (bar the new devil) and the only games that your cpu will excel mine is bf3/bf4.
 
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Yeah, he's just bought a new system for gaming and it has two 290xs and 9590, i kept trying to tell him to get a different CPU but he's so suborn and wants 8 cores thinking that's better. am i right it saying that CPU takes 220w to power?
 
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Unfortunately yes.

Jesus, two 290xs and a 9590... How does he keep that cool...
 
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he's getting a water cooler for the CPU and he has the sapphire 290xs. he also bought a 1200w PSU.

The sad thing is it's a "bragging rights" computer the only game he plays on PC is ff14 -.=. here's the stuff he's buying

http://www.cclonline.com/product/92541/PB278Q/Monitors/Asus-PB278Q-27-inch-LED-Monitor/MON1164/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/76732/RC-1200-KKN1/Cases/Cooler-Master-Cosmos-II-Full-Tower-Case/CAS0565/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/114163/ST4000NM0033/Hard-Drives/Seagate-Constellation-ES-3-4TB-Hard-Drive-7200rpm-6Gb/s-SATA-128MB-Internal-/HDD1950/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/86788/CP-9020008-UK/Power-Supplies/Corsair-AX1200i-Professional-Series-Gold-1200-Watt-ATX-PS/2-Power-Supply-Unit-80-PLUS-Certified-/PSU0383/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/99060/90-MIBJ70-G0EAY0VZ/Motherboards/Asus-Crosshair-V-Formula-Z-Motherboard/MBD0455/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/135885/90MB0G60-M0EAY0/Solid-State-Drives-SSDs-/Asus-ROG-RAIDR-Express-PCIe-240GB-Solid-State-Drive/HDD2334/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/114886/FD9590FHHKWOF/CPU-Processors/AMD-FX-9590-Octa-Core-Socket-AM3-4-7GHz-Processor/CPU0219/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/102369/KHX24C11T3K4/32X/Desktop-Memory/Kingston-HyperX-32GB-4x8GB-Memory-Module/RAM0821/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/148075/11226-00-40G/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Radeon-R9-290X-Tri-X-Overclocked-4GB-Graphics-Card-PCI-E-DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort/VGA2443/
http://www.cclonline.com/product/123095/RESERATOR3/CPU-Coolers/Zalman-Reserator-3-MAX-Ultimate-Liquid-CPU-Cooler/CLR0662/


crazy to just play final fantasy 14 right
 
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The 9590 is a horrible cpu for the money. For the price of that space heater, you could buy a 1230v3 and a motherboard, and have better performance. Sounds to me like your friend, no offense, has more money than smarts. They are overpaying for their system big time.
 
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A Xeon 1230v3 (essentially a i7 3770, or i5 3570 with hyperthreading) will happily outperform a 9590. Costs far less too, and will have a much longer lifetime. Seems logainofhades beat me to it again. 😀

Most games won't use more than 4 cores/threads, so running 8 of them at 5 GHz is just a waste. A stock i5 would still outperform it in many an instance. Once OC'd to 4.5GHz, the 9590 won't match it in most tasks.
 
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i've tried to convince him to chaange his CPU but he's a stubern fuck. so if he wants to piss his MUMS money up the wall cos he cba to get a job then w/e

btw will that cpu bottleneck two 290xs he's getting two of them crossfire
 
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Smack his mom in the face. It sounds like the kid is way to spoiled for his own good. Regardless of the outcome, he's just going to be that entitled kid walking down the block expecting life to hand him everything. He's going to be worse off than "normal" people.
 
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This would blow that crappy overpriced AMD rig out of the water for less. :lol:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£261.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.28 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£88.61 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£147.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£114.08 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial M550 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£215.94 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£77.58 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) (£400.60 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) (£400.60 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case (£102.58 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£134.99 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£54.00 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Dell U2713HM 60Hz 27.0" Monitor (£359.94 @ Aria PC)
Total: £2394.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-16 21:04 BST+0100
 
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he wants all the parts to be from CCL cos he can't build computers and there's no way I'm building this for him just to play final fantasy 14 i wouldn't feel right knowing all the cash came from his mum.
 
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Yea, a single R9 290 would be enough for his needs. I was just showing the ludicrosity of that AMD rig. This would be far more reasonable.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£186.89 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.28 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus H97-PLUS ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£114.08 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£85.96 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£81.73 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (£345.97 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£63.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£60.06 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.52 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£102.98 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor (£137.24 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1215.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-16 21:17 BST+0100
 
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Even a stupidly fast system would cost less.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£251.68 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£86.83 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£110.38 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£114.08 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial M550 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£215.94 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£81.73 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) (£413.44 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) (£413.44 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case (£103.72 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£143.86 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.52 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£102.98 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Dell U2713HM 60Hz 27.0" Monitor (£437.64 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £2487.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-16 21:19 BST+0100

The parts in that AMD rig came out to £2,676.78. That is nuts.
 
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Depends on the game. There are some games where the FX 9590 would have an advantage. If you compare the FX-8320 to the i5-3570K (very similar clock speeds) the 8320 is faster in heavily threaded applications (sometimes; naturally it depends on the specific application). The FX-9590 is the same as an 8320, just at 4.7-5GHz. So by that logic it would still be better in those same situations than an i5 3570k at 4.5GHz.

That said, in most games the 3570K is better as very few perform better on the FX eight-cores than on Intel i5/i7s... reason being that even though they use many threads, they still tend to load up the major components of the game's engine onto 1 or 2 cores, so single threaded performance still helps a lot.

So really it depends on the game. If you were to play something like World of Warcraft, your performance would be significantly higher than his. But if you played BF4, he might pull ahead by a few frames per second (though honestly in heavily threaded games it's hard to notice a difference since at that point the GPU matters more).

And it might slightly bottleneck crossfire 290X, but it should be fine. I know people playing with crossfire 280X on an FX-8350 @ 4.5-4.9GHz while being <75% CPU usage, so 290Xs should still run really well but they may not perform quite as well as they would with something like a 4930K.
 
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I agree, i've told him this already he's probably already bought it by now tried to convince him for the past 3 days and he's had none of it ;/. apparently it's a "bragging rights" computer idk how he can brag, just makes him look like a dumb ass -.= but, I've been the best friend i can be in this situation o.0
 
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He's a fanboy, a goddamn fanboy and you should bitch slap him for that!
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Bragging rights, I'll give him bragging rights with a boot up his ass!
 
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Anyone who bragged to me about buying that overpriced space heater of a CPU would get a boot to the teeth. This would be followed by some form of bestiality taking place....just a bad situation for everyone involved;(
 
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