Discussion 3600(X) has shown up in UserBenchmark

[WildCard999]

I was looking at the performance difference between my Ryzen 2600 & 8700 and noticed the 3600(X) were in the benchmarks.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3940vs4040

Performance seems quite good.

 

[AngelTech]

Yes I agree but I don't believe the recent benchmarks of a 3600 beating the i9-9900K in single-core loads

 

[WildCard999]

Yes I agree but I don't believe the recent benchmarks of a 3600 beating the i9-9900K in single-core loads

Same, I don't think the 3600(X) will beat the 9900K however I think the Ryzen 9's could be close.

 

[ElectrO_90]

Same, I don't think the 3600(X) will beat the 9900K however I think the Ryzen 9's could be close.

But it doesn't matter what anyone believes.
Just wait 6 more days for FACT over Belief.

 

[WildCard999]

I'm looking forward to a in-depth review, can't wait to see how these perform although I'm holding out for the last gen before AMD moves onto a different socket before replacing my 2600.

 

[AngelTech]

But it doesn't matter what anyone believes.
Just wait 6 more days for FACT over Belief.

Yes but it's fun to speculate when the release is near

 

[AngelTech]

Same, I don't think the 3600(X) will beat the 9900K however I think the Ryzen 9's could be close.

I agree did you see the benchmark for the non X 3600? beating every CPU Intel had to offer? that is just unbelievable and I feel bad for those not very aware of how tech works and then buying a 3600 and being disappointed with the results

 

[AngelTech]

I didn't know passmark was provided by AMD

 

[WildCard999]

I didn't know passmark was provided by AMD

Sorry I misquoted it, it was a leaked bench with the 3950X outperforming the i9-9980XE.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3950x-vs-intel-i9-9980xe-geekbench,39640.html

 

[AngelTech]

Yeah, I saw that one I am more concerned with the fact people believe the 3600(non X) will outperform the i9-9900K

 

[WildCard999]

Yeah, I saw that one I am more concerned with the fact people believe the 3600(non X) will outperform the i9-9900K

Highly doubt it, maybe it will compete with the non K locked version.

 

[AngelTech]

This is what it is supposed to look like according to AMD but people believe a $200 CPU will beat a $488 CPU which is just ridiculous to me I am happy with a Ryzen 7 I think just like the i9-9900K the 3900X and 3950X are overkill which Is why I am going 3700X or 3800X you may disagree but I honestly believe anything over a 7 series is overkill UNLESS you are doing some HEAVY video editing or maybe game development or any other very tasking work loads

 

[WildCard999]

It'll be interesting to see how the 3700X/3800X perform against the 9700K but yea, the Ryzen 9's (even 7's) are a bit more then most need.

 

[AngelTech]

Yeah I just want a 7 series for future proofing as it won't be too much longer before games will need more cores just like how 16 GB of RAM has become the bare minimum when it use to be just 2 x 4 GB I don't expect the 7 series to beat the 9700K or compare exactly but I expect a decent improvement from Zen+ is all I feel the only reason to get a 9990K 3900X or 3950X is if you do something that requires ALOT of CPU power like super heavy workloads or heavy multitasking with multiple workloads at once

 

[MasterMadBones]

Yeah, I saw that one I am more concerned with the fact people believe the 3600(non X) will outperform the i9-9900K

The massive amounts of L3 cache available per core (especially in the case of the 6-core variants) may make it possible for some benchmarks to run almost entirely from within cache, which dramatically improves performance. We've seen this happen with Geekbench as well, which is known to benefit a lot from high memory bandwidth. These are obviously edge cases but not necessarily untrue. It simply confirms once again that many synthetic benchmarks do not represent real world performance.

One thing I noticed was that nearly every benchmark of 3rd gen Ryzen I've seen so far had a suboptimal memory configuration, running at 2133-2400 MT/s, or 4266 MT/s, which runs in 2:1 mode. There are also some very obvious problems with write throughput, which used to be Zen's strong point and is supposed to be even better for Zen 2. Are we looking at early and unoptimized BIOS versions?

 

[ElectrO_90]

It'll be interesting to see how the 3700X/3800X perform against the 9700K but yea, the Ryzen 9's (even 7's) are a bit more then most need.

I think the R9 is great because its dual CPU chiplet, so you can/should be able to OC it like a 3600, since it's 2 of them.
Of course it comes down to money, but if I can afford an R9 I would get one