There's no such thing. Passmark doesn't cover everything - they're all going to favor one thing or another.
I use Passmark, but also compare results with other benchmarks as well; the results can vary.
Hey now, that's just the multi-core score... You're not going to ignore the single core, are you? You should know to take into account both single and multi-threaded applications.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3800X/3494vs3499
Single: 3800X(2981) VS 3600X(2915) = ~2% uplift
Multi: 24498 VS 20519 = 19%
Here's a ~50 game benchmark between the 2 using the OP's choice of the RX 5700XT:
https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/com...md-ryzen-5-3600x/ultra-vs-ultra-vs-low-vs-low
Practically identical performance as far as games are concerned.
So, 3800X VS 3600X: Overall, the former provides 0 UP TO 19% uplift over the latter for 47% more. It only pulls ahead when the user actually USES the extra resources.
When they sit there doing nothing, the user has gained nothing.
A budget that the OP would like to get lowered. It appears they're not comfortable with the current total, so that's why they came here and asked.
If money was no object, I wouldn't have dipped my toes in here, and likely would've avoided this argument with you as well...
I did think differently about cpus like the 3700X and 3800X, but having done more research on the matter, they really don't offer that much for what they cost, especially for gaming.
They're middle men that try to multitask and fail. The 3600/X does the same thing for much cheaper, and some one who really needs lots of threads should be looking at a 3900X anyways.
You can't predict the future, I can't predict the future - so the whole 'futureproofing' thing is just bogus. We can only make assumptions based on past events. It's not a guarantee of things to come.
Where is the value of the 3800X's extra resources over the 3600X if the OP doesn't regularly make use of them, even in the next 3-4 years? 0.
By regularly, I mean at least a few times a week, not some once a week/month/blue moon, whatever - frequently! Getting your money's worth for what you paid for.
The 3600/X are awesome cpus! They launched with a bang!
Their value is great, with performance to boot; crawling up even the 9900K's back.
They just came out this year, and suddenly, aren't any good for the next 3-4 years?! WTF?! That's about how long a mid to high end gpu goes - cpus go longer than that.
I don't get it...
Wow.
Only in certain scenarios is it better, and they're pretty niche - gaming + streaming is not niche. People still game + stream with 7700Ks and 8700Ks - the 3600X outperforms both, and it's suddenly inadequate?
I do scour the forums.
I'm going to leave the rest of that line alone, because I don't want to offend anyone, but I will say that you're being pretty vague with 'better than a 6 core chip'.
What is better? Which 6 core? Why/How is it better than the 6? Where is it better?