[SOLVED] 3700x weird temperatures

[carrymetrue]

I recently upgraded to a 3700x and am having confusion when monitoring temperatures. I'm currently using a wraith spire stock cooler (the middle option of amd stock coolers) for cooling which isn't the ideal but is rated for 95 watts. The programs I've been using are MSI Afterburner, HWINFO, and Ryzen Master. MSI Afterburner seems to be reporting the highest temperatures with idles within the 50-65c on idle but with random jolts in temperatures (i.e. going up from low 50s to mid 60s and then back down). HWINFO reports 3 separate temperatures "CPU", "CPU Die", and "CPU CCD1". Temps for the first ranges from 50-65c on idle but also has random jolt (i.e. going from 51 to 57 and back to 51). Temps for the other two tend to be lower ranging from 40-50c on idle with less sudden dips and rises. Ryzen master reports the lowest temperatures on average with low 40s to mid 40s on idle. Under heavy load, temperatures throughout all programs reach around the same temperature (low to high 70s) with MSI Afterburner reporting an max of 83c. Overall, why do these numbers vary so much and is there anything I should be concerned about?

 

[CountMike]

I recently upgraded to a 3700x and am having confusion when monitoring temperatures. I'm currently using a wraith spire stock cooler (the middle option of amd stock coolers) for cooling which isn't the ideal but is rated for 95 watts. The programs I've been using are MSI Afterburner, HWINFO, and Ryzen Master. MSI Afterburner seems to be reporting the highest temperatures with idles within the 50-65c on idle but with random jolts in temperatures (i.e. going up from low 50s to mid 60s and then back down). HWINFO reports 3 separate temperatures "CPU", "CPU Die", and "CPU CCD1". Temps for the first ranges from 50-65c on idle but also has random jolt (i.e. going from 51 to 57 and back to 51). Temps for the other two tend to be lower ranging from 40-50c on idle with less sudden dips and rises. Ryzen master reports the lowest temperatures on average with low 40s to mid 40s on idle. Under heavy load, temperatures throughout all programs reach around the same temperature (low to high 70s) with MSI Afterburner reporting an max of 83c. Overall, why do these numbers vary so much and is there anything I should be concerned about?

Please refrain from double posting, you'll have your answers soon enough.

 

[drea.drechsler]

I recently upgraded to a 3700x and am having confusion when monitoring temperatures. I'm currently using a wraith spire stock cooler (the middle option of amd stock coolers) for cooling which isn't the ideal but is rated for 95 watts. The programs I've been using are MSI Afterburner, HWINFO, and Ryzen Master. MSI Afterburner seems to be reporting the highest temperatures with idles within the 50-65c on idle but with random jolts in temperatures (i.e. going up from low 50s to mid 60s and then back down). HWINFO reports 3 separate temperatures "CPU", "CPU Die", and "CPU CCD1". Temps for the first ranges from 50-65c on idle but also has random jolt (i.e. going from 51 to 57 and back to 51). Temps for the other two tend to be lower ranging from 40-50c on idle with less sudden dips and rises. Ryzen master reports the lowest temperatures on average with low 40s to mid 40s on idle. Under heavy load, temperatures throughout all programs reach around the same temperature (low to high 70s) with MSI Afterburner reporting an max of 83c. Overall, why do these numbers vary so much and is there anything I should be concerned about?

I'm not sure why you think the temp's are 'weird'. What did you upgrade from? Ryzen works significantly different from Intel processors and the temp profiles reflect it.

Pay most attention to HWInfo as it tells the temp story better. Always remember that Ryzen CPU's have a Tjmax of 95C, except 8 core and up 5000 series that are 90C. If it's not even getting within 10C of that you're well within 'safe' territory. Although, it's quite desireable to keep temps in the mid 70's under heavy processing as the CPU will maintain higher clocks.

Unlike the coolers Intel bundles with their high performance CPU's Wraithe coolers are 'adequate'. But just barely adequate and can be quite noisey while being merely adequate. Invest in a better cooler and your 3700X will reward with better performance while being quiet at the same time. I'd suggest a 240mm AIO if your case has a proper way to mount it in front, or a big air cooler but make sure your case is well ventilated with fans on intake AND exhaust.

 

[dorsai]

I recently upgraded to a 3700x and am having confusion when monitoring temperatures. I'm currently using a wraith spire stock cooler (the middle option of amd stock coolers) for cooling which isn't the ideal but is rated for 95 watts. The programs I've been using are MSI Afterburner, HWINFO, and Ryzen Master. MSI Afterburner seems to be reporting the highest temperatures with idles within the 50-65c on idle but with random jolts in temperatures (i.e. going up from low 50s to mid 60s and then back down). HWINFO reports 3 separate temperatures "CPU", "CPU Die", and "CPU CCD1". Temps for the first ranges from 50-65c on idle but also has random jolt (i.e. going from 51 to 57 and back to 51). Temps for the other two tend to be lower ranging from 40-50c on idle with less sudden dips and rises. Ryzen master reports the lowest temperatures on average with low 40s to mid 40s on idle. Under heavy load, temperatures throughout all programs reach around the same temperature (low to high 70s) with MSI Afterburner reporting an max of 83c. Overall, why do these numbers vary so much and is there anything I should be concerned about?

What you're describing with temp spikes is normal operation for Ryzen cpus. A better cpu cooler will absorb more of the spike and smooth out the temp fluctuations but they are not dangerous to the cpu as long as they are not getting near T max. I always suggest new Ryzen owners run Ryzen Master to monitor temps because it averages temps to remove the spikes and helps keep new users from becoming concerned over essentially nothing. Also the fact that it's from the folks who build the cpu should help ease any concerns.

 

[drea.drechsler]

... I always suggest new Ryzen owners run Ryzen Master to monitor temps because it averages temps to remove the spikes ...

That always sets minds at ease, to see nicely averaged temps.

But concerns arise when fans spike in volume even while watching temps that aren't alarming at all. That's because motherboard fan sensors follow the instantaneous die temps. Takes some explaining and many never get used to it.