3770k VS 4690k

[Arcanekitten]

Hi

I've seen a second hand i7 3770k with a Asus Maximus V gene and a antec kuhler H2O 620 with 16 GB of ram for 350 euro's
But new you can get a i5 4690k and a Gigabyte GA-Z97X-gaming 3 for 350 euro's.

What would be better for Gaming and doing a lot of online work (writing, watching youtube ect)
Also I currently have a FX 8350 with asrock extreme3 R2.0 but that thing is overheating at Stock so that a bust(And yes i've troubleshooted this A Lot so I am not starting to do that mess again.).
The GPU i use is a R9 290 Which in some games I experience bottlenecks from the fx 8350.
partly because its throttling at stock so had to set it to 3.9 ghz and 1.3 volts and also just bottlenecking my gpu in games like fallout 4 where it is capped at 90% usage and dying light, witcher 3(kinda) and Mad max too.

 

[Ironsounds]

Hello... http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770K+%40+3.50GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4690K+%40+3.50GHz
the i5 has slightly better single thread performance for gaming.

 

[why_wolf]

Anadtech review of the Haswell refresh chipset, includes the i7-3770k. The gaming benchmarks are useless unfortunately as they half as*** it since this was just a refresh of the Haswell chips. The rest is still good though. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7963/the-intel-haswell-refresh-review-core-i7-4790-i5-4690-and-i3-4360-tested

In short the i5 has slightly better single thread performance that would be good for games. But the i7 dominates once it gets to use all its cores. From your use case it sounds like the extra cores of the i7 wouldn't really do anything for you.

Either one will destroy your AMD setup.

 

[photonboy]

Hi,
1) Both Intel CPU's will give similar gaming experiences.

2) the i7-3770K can actually do BETTER in future games that are well threaded. In fact, it MAY do better in the new DOOM game

3) writing etc isn't worth discussing. You just discuss the MOST DEMANDING TASK.
*Converting video using Handbrake (if using all threads) will be slightly faster on the i7 vs that i5

4) FALLOUT 4 is old code, and very inefficient on the CPU. here's how it really scales:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2182-fallout-4-cpu-benchmark-huge-performance-difference

Your GPU and settings will affect the results, but for THESE exact settings the FX-8350 would be about 55FPS, whereas the i5-4690K (at stock) was at 77FPS.

It appears you may get a very small hyperthreading boost though the i5-4690K should be about the same or slightly better (not by much).

5) *OVERCLOCKING*
I manually tweaked my MULTIPLIERS. I didn't raise the voltage but in my BIOS I'm at
1,2,3,4-core Turbo values are at:
43,43,42,42 respectively

So my worst-case scenario under load is 4.2GHz (lower for light/idle tasks of course).

I've seen very little reason to overclock further, as CPU bottleneck isn't very often.

 

[photonboy]

Having said all that, I would go with NEW PARTS, so the i5-4690K if that's the only other choice is what I'd do.

*As I read your post again, I'm convinced that you would rarely see the benefits of the i7-3770K (hyperthreading). I read the post WRONG first and thought you had a deal on the i7 but since the NEW i5 setup is the same price, go new.

(I guess SKYLAKE is too expensive?)

 

[Arcanekitten]

Though one thing to consider is that the i7 bundle has a really nice mobo(Asus maximus V gene) and a water cooler and 16gb of ram (currently have a hyper 412s and 1333mhz 8gb of ram)

Where the i5 is only the mobo and cpu and then I would use my hyper 412s and 8 gb of ram I currently have.

That water cooler would get me higher clocks and extra 8 gb of ram would help with chrome since that uses a lot of GBs of ram.

 

[4Ryan6]

Though one thing to consider is that the i7 bundle has a really nice mobo(Asus maximus V gene) and a water cooler and 16gb of ram (currently have a hyper 412s and 1333mhz 8gb of ram)

Where the i5 is only the mobo and cpu and then I would use my hyper 412s and 8 gb of ram I currently have.

That water cooler would get me higher clocks and extra 8 gb of ram would help with chrome since that uses a lot of GBs of ram.

Well that changes everything definitely go with the 3770K!

 

[Arcanekitten]

Having said all that, I would go with NEW PARTS, so the i5-4690K if that's the only other choice is what I'd do.

*As I read your post again, I'm convinced that you would rarely see the benefits of the i7-3770K (hyperthreading). I read the post WRONG first and thought you had a deal on the i7 but since the NEW i5 setup is the same price, go new.

(I guess SKYLAKE is too expensive?)

Though one thing to consider is that the i7 bundle has a really nice mobo(Asus maximus V gene) and a water cooler and 16gb of ram (currently have a hyper 412s and 1333mhz 8gb of ram)

Where the i5 is only the mobo and cpu and then I would use my hyper 412s and 8 gb of ram I currently have.

That water cooler would get me higher clocks and extra 8 gb of ram would help with chrome since that uses a lot of GBs of ram.

 

[Arcanekitten]

Having said all that, I would go with NEW PARTS, so the i5-4690K if that's the only other choice is what I'd do.

*As I read your post again, I'm convinced that you would rarely see the benefits of the i7-3770K (hyperthreading). I read the post WRONG first and thought you had a deal on the i7 but since the NEW i5 setup is the same price, go new.

(I guess SKYLAKE is too expensive?)

And although Skylake is the same as a 4690k (240 euro's) here, DDR4 is also a cost and then it would cost 60 euro's more than the 3770k which makes it not worth it.

 

[photonboy]

Go with i7-3770K based on what you said.

Note you may be able to play with the Turbo values. I kept the voltage at stock and my values for the MULTIPLIERS in the BIOS are:

1-core 43
2-core 43
3-core 42
4-core 42

Basically under load I never drop below 4.2GHz (shows as 4.16GHz though in Task Manager). Yours may end up quite different, and again I didn't change voltage. Most people weren't getting above 4.5GHz and frankly once it was stable I didn't feel like messing with it.

I've been very happy with my setup. My DDR3 memory is set to XMP or close to it (messing with overclock can disable some XMP settings).

*When you first set it up, I recommend you:
a) leave CPU stock, then
b) apply "XMP" and save, then
c) run MEMTEST86 for a full pass www.memtet86.com (may need to change BIOS boot order)
d) don't overclock the CPU for at least a week to test for stability

Don't forget to optimize your fan profile. I don't know if the fan for that liquid cooler connects to the CPU_FAN on the Asus board but if it does, then install the Asus fan software and setup a profile (such as 30% max RPM until 45degC then ramp up).