3Dmark 06 score

[GamerXtreme]

HI..i have a asus 9800Gtx+ on my asus striker 2 formula. I got 12200 marks for 3Dmark06 advanced edition with normal setting.Is this ok?The problem is i have to overclocked my cpu so that i can get the score above 10k..i am using pentium Dual-Core E5200..i overclocked it to 3.14Ghz. With the original cpu clock, i only got the score about 8000+..can anyone tell me this is my cpu problem or graphic problem..Is my Graphic Card Working normally?..Thx



P\s: Maybe i did had some grammar mistake but please do help me with this probrem

 

[Wrecks]

Your grammar is OK. I recently got a 9800GTX+, and with the factory E6600 Core 2 Duo it gets 11 000 in 3DMark 06 free version.

By the marks you posted, I would say that your graphics card is doing its job, and the E5200 is showing its age.

Nice Overclock, by the way.

 

[ragsters]

Why do you think there is a problem? Right now your CPU is your bottleneck. When you up the clock speed of your cpu your graphics card has more room to breathe. Other than that I'd say 12,200 is pretty good.

 

[brendano257]

Nothing is "wrong" per say. Your CPU is slow enough that it is hindering the graphics card. Try getting something like and E8400($169) or even an E7200/E7300 both are VERY good overclockers and have much larger caches. The E7200 is around $120. But I'd keep the E5200 around because it is a nice overclocker and would make a good secondary system.

 

[radguy]

The E7200 has 3mb of level 2 cache the E5200 has 2mb I wouldn't say that 1 extra mb is much larger. The E5200 is typically a slightly better ocer because of the 12.5x multi. I don't thinks its worth the extra 40 dollars over the E5200.

Remember that 3dmark has a strong cpu component. With any solid graphics card your always going to get a higher score with a faster cpu. If there is a significant bottleneck then your going to see much larger increases like you have. But once you oced your E5200 you pretty much have removed most of the bottleneck.

With todays intel dual core cpus you're looking at the very best 20% increase to an E8000 series at the same clock and more of an average of about 8% from everything I have read. So why would you tell someone to spend another 120 or 170 bucks on a faster cpu? With his oc on the E5200 and a solid gpu his has a pretty awesome system that is performing just the way it should in my opinion.

 

[rambo117]

Nothing is "wrong" per say. Your CPU is slow enough that it is hindering the graphics card. Try getting something like and E8400($169) or even an E7200/E7300 both are VERY good overclockers and have much larger caches. The E7200 is around $120. But I'd keep the E5200 around because it is a nice overclocker and would make a good secondary system.

havent you been reading the latest system builder articles??
the E5200 got all the way to 4GHZ on air m8. that is a very good overclock IMO

 

[boulard83]

My 9800gtx+SC (771mhz) paired whit a 3600mhz E6850 score 14550 3dmark06. that was with my 2g Ram 4-4-4-15, have the same with 4g 4-4-4-12 1T.

Your CPU is the bottleneck i think, but what about your RAM, MOBO ?

 

[rambo117]

nice 3dmark score=]]
mine is 13758 with 2 3870s and a 3.4GHZ AMD dualcore OCed lol XD
yehhh, im pretty sure the CPU is the bottleneck for the OP.

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

The E5200 is not old... I overclocked one to 4.3 Ghz on air, thats not a bottleneck.

Edit: Don't try this at home, my lapped Xigmatek HDT-s1283 cools real well with 2 110 CFM fans strapped on....

 

[boulard83]

E5200 2 MB L2 2.50 GHz 800 MHz fsb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072

E8200 6 MB L2 2.66 GHz 1333 MHz fsb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115038

OK the E8200 is twice the price ... the 5200 is PentiumD, the 8200 is C2D

The 8200 have 3x more Cache.

You can OC any proc to anywhere you want with proper cooling, but the 5200 is still a PentiumD proc.....

E5200 proc is NOT a gaming proc, its a Casual desktop proc.


Edit1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037 same price E8400

 

[mtyermom]

The E5200 is not old... I overclocked one to 4.3 Ghz on air, thats not a bottleneck.

Edit: Don't try this at home, my lapped Xigmatek HDT-s1283 cools real well with 2 110 CFM fans strapped on....

You lapped direct touch heat pipes? Been wondering about that....

 

[mtyermom]

OK the E8200 is twice the price ... the 5200 is PentiumD, the 8200 is C2D

The e5200 is most certainly not a Pentium D.

The Pentium D is the old netburst architecture. Pentium D wiki

The e5200 is part of the Core 2 family, it has the same C2D architecture but with reduced cache and is in the 'Pentium Dual Core' series. Pentium Dual Core wiki

The similarity in names can be confusing, but it is important to recognize the difference.

 

[boulard83]

look at INTEL web site ... E5200 is classified in the PENTIUM familly

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_dual-core/specs.htm

i think i can TRUST intel web site LOTTA more then wiki where anyone can write what he want .........

 

[mtyermom]

look at INTEL web site ... E5200 is classified in the PENTIUM familly

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_dual-core/specs.htm

i think i can TRUST intel web site LOTTA more then wiki where anyone can write what he want .........

My point is that it is a core 2 architecture chip and is NOT a 'Pentium D', which is the old netburst architecture.

The e5xxx series, like the e2xxx series is named 'Pentium Dual Core' and not 'Pentium D'. There IS a huge difference.

YOU need to know what you are talking about and be careful to make the distinction between the two. Although I admit, it is Intel's fault for creating a confusing naming scheme.

 

[boulard83]

a completely agree with you, but can you just admit that a E5200 is away from being a fast gaming cpu...... even OCed to 3ghz+


Edit1: Exxx is 45nm series, your right... BUT
FROM intel web site about the E5200 cpu:

The Intel Pentium dual-core processor delivers enhanced performance for everyday computing needs such as listening to digital music and editing digital photography and improved responsiveness with office applications.

Edit2:
Intel's newest addition to the Intel® Pentium® processor family with dual-core processor technology that delivers great desktop and mobile performance, low power enhancements, and multitasking for everyday computing.

Et Voilah

 

[cjl]

a completely agree with you, but can you just admit that a E5200 is away from being a fast gaming cpu...... even OCed to 3ghz+


Edit1: Exxx is 45nm series, your right... BUT
FROM intel web site about the E5200 cpu:

The Intel Pentium dual-core processor delivers enhanced performance for everyday computing needs such as listening to digital music and editing digital photography and improved responsiveness with office applications.

Edit2:
Intel's newest addition to the Intel® Pentium® processor family with dual-core processor technology that delivers great desktop and mobile performance, low power enhancements, and multitasking for everyday computing.

Et Voilah

It's a Pentium with a Wolfdale core. In other words, it's the same exact core as the high end E8000 series, just with less cache. Note that it even states on the data sheet here that the code name is Wolfdale, just like on the E8600 here.

Overclocked at 3GHz or more, the E5200 is an excellent gaming CPU, as it has plenty of power, and tons of headroom. Just because Intel is calling it a Pentium doesn't mean that it uses the same core as the older (and far worse) Pentium D family.

 

[boulard83]

i KNOW its a DualCore proc, im sorry i just made a mistake when i told its a Pentium D. its a 45nm ... no mistake about that. but i think this BENCHMARK in 3dmark06 is really telling something, I have SAME gpu, and my STOCK E6850 3.0ghz Benched 13000 and now 14500 OCed. He have 12000 with a 3.14ghz .... THERE is the différence, and if you take a Quad E6xxx,+E9xxx or a E8xxx better cpu youll get lill better score.... thats all about the CPU technologie ... CACHE !!! fsb ...

E5200 is a NEW cpu, nice CPU, im telling its BAD, but a 60$ cpu cant come Head to head with some 300+$ cpu ... LOOK benchmark..

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

^ Ok so lets OC the hell out of both, and when you can't hit 4.0 GHz and the E5200 can go over it, then lets see which is faster. By your logic since 3dmark06 eats up quadcores, a Q9550 @ 3.5 Ghz will be better in all games than my E8600 @ 4.5 Ghz? The E5200 is faster than EVERY dualcore in the E6xxx and E7xxx families, it overclocks better than both. The reason he gets lower scores can be for a wide variety of reasons, it is NOT comparable. Finally, an E8500 @ 4.0 Ghz will perform EXACTLY the same as an E5200 @ 4.0 Ghz in gaming at any decent resolution. The E5200 is the best CPU out there for price/performance. It is $60-$80 and it DOES perform the same as a $300+ CPU since it IS the $300 CPU underclocked. The cache size doesn't make a huge difference either, especially when the CPU is @ 4.0 Ghz+.

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

You lapped direct touch heat pipes? Been wondering about that....

Yes, but not nearly as much as you think when you hear lapping. I can't see my reflection perfectly. I just lapped it so that there is a much smaller crevice between the heatpipes and the aluminum base. It made a large difference in the ease of spreading the thermal paste, which seemed to effect temps a little. I have seen people lap this cooler to a mirror finish, but I wouldn't go that far since you could sand through a heatpipe.

 

[boulard83]

SRY its missing one word in my last post

E5200 is a NEW cpu, nice CPU, im NOT telling its BAD, but a 60$ cpu cant come Head to head with some 300+$ cpu ... LOOK benchmark..

 

[boulard83]

i agree with you, and with all other here, i know that a 4ghz E5xxx VS a 4ghz E8xxx are about the same thing. Cache have still a lil thing to do in this. This E5200 may produce less heat VS E6xxx.

 

[rambo117]

^ Ok so lets OC the hell out of both, and when you can't hit 4.0 GHz and the E5200 can go over it, then lets see which is faster. By your logic since 3dmark06 eats up quadcores, a Q9550 @ 3.5 Ghz will be better in all games than my E8600 @ 4.5 Ghz? The E5200 is faster than EVERY dualcore in the E6xxx and E7xxx families, it overclocks better than both. The reason he gets lower scores can be for a wide variety of reasons, it is NOT comparable. Finally, an E8500 @ 4.0 Ghz will perform EXACTLY the same as an E5200 @ 4.0 Ghz in gaming at any decent resolution. The E5200 is the best CPU out there for price/performance. It is $60-$80 and it DOES perform the same as a $300+ CPU since it IS the $300 CPU underclocked. The cache size doesn't make a huge difference either, especially when the CPU is @ 4.0 Ghz+.

hehe, well now we know where nvidia gets its product relabling from

 

[mtyermom]

i KNOW its a DualCore proc, im sorry i just made a mistake when i told its a Pentium D. its a 45nm ... no mistake about that. but i think this BENCHMARK in 3dmark06 is really telling something, I have SAME gpu, and my STOCK E6850 3.0ghz Benched 13000 and now 14500 OCed. He have 12000 with a 3.14ghz .... THERE is the différence, and if you take a Quad E6xxx,+E9xxx or a E8xxx better cpu youll get lill better score.... thats all about the CPU technologie ... CACHE !!! fsb ...

E5200 is a NEW cpu, nice CPU, im telling its BAD, but a 60$ cpu cant come Head to head with some 300+$ cpu ... LOOK benchmark..

Dude, take that synthetic benchmark and shove it up your ***, we're talking about real world performance (specifically, gaming). Yes, the larger cache will give an e8xxx cpu a slight lead over a smaller cached e5xxx, but in real world practical application (again, gaming) the difference in FPS at the same clock speed is going to be nearly insignificant.

 

[Guest]

Yeah but e8400 is better... I mean... in your signature would you rather put e8400 or e5200

its all about the e-peen

 

[rambo117]

Yeah but e8400 is better... I mean... in your signature would you rather put e8400 or e5200

its all about the e-peen

e-peen, lol nice

and plus, its a FREAKIN benchmark. benchmarks dont meen crap. it doesnt reflect realworld performance. go buy a game like crysis or something and ENJOY your sweet computer..

just becuase a 3dmark score isnt as hiogh as youd wish doesnt meen there is something wrong with your comp.
i was kinda shocked when i saw that i only got 3000 extra points in 3dmark 06 after i put in another 3870, but once i tried crysis, i was immediatly distracted from my 3dmark score dissapointment