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Tinyvaldemar

Jul 26, 2021
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I have system I built running a TR 3970 (water cooled) on a ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha (latest BIOS)and a MSI GeForce 3090 GPU. I have a 1600W Corsair AX PSU

I clean installed Windows 10 Pro for Workstations and the latest NVIDIA drivers. I set the power configuration to "Ultimate" in Windows.

I installed MSI Afterburner and monitored the GPU performance while I ran the free version of MSI Time Spy.

I got a score of 6697.. GPU score was 6552 and CPU score 7664. The GPU never went above 41% utilization and 59 degrees Celsius in temperature during the test. The CPU never went above 55 degrees in temperature during the test.

Any suggestion what could cause this? It feels like the MOBO is throttling performance somehow. As a note, Geekbench 5 gives a OpenCL score of 202402.
 
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Tinyvaldemar

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RAM: 64 GB (4X16 Corsair Dominator) DDR4-2132 (1066MHz)
DISKs:
Disk1: Samsung EVO 970 EVO Plus 2TB


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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/26/2021, 13:29:15
Machine name: MYRTELWKS09
Machine Id: {CECF934E-2C70-4D11-8E3A-BA65AD6277F7}
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations 64-bit (10.0, Build 19043) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ASUS
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: 1502 (type: UEFI)
Processor: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X 32-Core Processor (64 CPUs), ~3.7GHz
Memory: 65536MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 65410MB RAM
Page File: 13455MB used, 61683MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, no HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8
DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.0928 64bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device (POST)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_2204&SUBSYS_38841462&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 57053 MB
Dedicated Memory: 24348 MB
Shared Memory: 32705 MB
Current Mode: 3840 x 1600 (32 bit) (144Hz)
HDR Support: Supported
Display Topology: Extend
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G2084_NONE_P2020
Color Primaries: Red(0.688477,0.308594), Green(0.257812,0.669922), Blue(0.147461,0.061523), White Point(0.312500,0.329102)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.100900, Max Luminance = 603.698425, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 455.523193
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: 38GN950
Monitor Id: GSM7754
Native Mode: 3840 x 1600(p) (74.977Hz)
Output Type: Displayport External
Monitor Capabilities: HDR Supported (BT2020RGB BT2020YCC Eotf2084Supported )
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_NONGDI
Advanced Color: AdvancedColorSupported AdvancedColorEnabled
Driver Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_5d5c294bb8d17217\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_5d5c294bb8d17217\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_5d5c294bb8d17217\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_5d5c294bb8d17217\nvldumdx.dll
Driver File Version: 30.00.0014.7141 (English)
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7141
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.7
Hardware Scheduling: Supported:True Enabled:False
Graphics Preemption: Pixel
Compute Preemption: Dispatch
Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
Detachable GPU: No
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Virtualization: Paravirtualization
Block List: No Blocks
Catalog Attributes: Universal:False Declarative:True
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2021-07-12 02:00:00, 1056272 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-6144-11CF-376C-8A180EC2D335}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x2204
SubSys ID: 0x38841462
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem13.inf:0f066de3b9184289:Section091:30.0.14.7141:pci\ven_10de&dev_2204
Rank Of Driver: 00CF2001
 
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In the first post the ram speed you posted is 2132 (base speed of DDR4) and in the second 3200. Enter BIOS and make sure that you have XMP/ DOCP enabled so the ram is indeed running at the advertised 3200 speed. In amd CPUs it plays a huge role in the performance to have the ram running at high speeds.
 
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Tinyvaldemar

Jul 26, 2021
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Many thanks for your reply! I am grateful for a response!

When I run CPU-Z and select the "Memory" tab I get the following:
Type=DDR4
Channel=Quad
Size=64GB
Uncore Frequency=1605 Mhz
Under "Timings" the DRAM Frequency is listed as 1604 MHz

Under the "SPD" Tab when I select Slot 2 I get (among other things)

Max Bandwidth = DDR4-232 (1066 Mhz)
SPD Ext. = XMP 2.0

In the BIOS I cant find a setting for XMP/DOCP but under "AI Tweaker" i selected the memory speed to be 3200
 
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Ok, it seems it runs at the correct speed. Have you updated chipset drivers and windows to the most recent update?

I am not familiar with Threadripper CPUs or workstations to be honest but that score does seem low.

Have you tried any other benchmark? Cinebench, heaven benchmark?
 
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Tinyvaldemar

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Yes, Cinebench gives me a Multi Core score 41189 and Single Core of 1382

GeekBench givens me 202402 on OpenCL, 242168 on CUDA and Vulcan of 120566. Single Core score of 1266 and Multi Core Score of 17873
 
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Those two results have one major difference. RAM speed. In the first result, your ram speed is more than the advertised (3266MHz) and in the second is at base speed (2133MHz). As I said that can greatly affect CPU and GPU performance.
In the second result you also have a higher background CPU usage. You might have another app running while benchmarking.

I am very confused and I don't think I can help you since I did not know enough about Threadripper. I will try to get someone else to have a look at this.
 
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After conversing with another fellow member, there are a few more things to check. He pointed at some I missed and made some notes.

Make sure your motherboard's software if it's installed that is not running any gaming mode.

Go to Nvidia settings and select adaptive or max performance and not optimal.

To windows power plan select AMD optimised and not max performance.

What is your exact CPU cooler? What program did you use to measure temps? I can suggest HWinfo in sensors mode that shows what happens with many details and you can also save a log of them.
 
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Tinyvaldemar

Jul 26, 2021
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Many thanks!

No software installed that runs in gaming mode. NVIDIA settings are all set to maximum performance as far as I can tell via Nvidia Control Panel and Global Settings.

My CPU cooler is a Kraken Z3. When I log using HWINFO in sensors mode I get the maximum temperature from the "CPU (Die)" of 72 degrees Celsius. The Max "Core Temperatures" is 70.3 during the test I cant find a CPU-related temperature above 79 degrees. The GPU Max Temperature briefly goes up to 72 degrees with an average of 54.4 degrees.
 
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Tinyvaldemar

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Once again: Thanks so much for all your help! This is interesting: When I run the test and check 3D performance in Task Manager, its basically between 0-3% during the entire test!! CPU usage is around 20%, both in the graphics tests and CPU tests. Overall score is 8493. If I run MSI Kombustor v4.1.12.0 and test both OpenGL and Vulcan, the GPU hits 100% in the all tests regardless of API. If I run PerformanceTest 10.1 and test DX11 I get 100% GPU utiization. If I select DX12 in the same test, i get 0% GPU utilization! This seems to be related only to DX12 performance. Can that be hardware related?
 
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Hi again!
Task manager is not a reliable source of GPU utilisation. You need to check that through HWinfo or MSI afterburner.

As for Directx12, a few days ago I stumbled upon a thread in which a 3000 series GPU was not performing well in Directx12 and had excellent performance in everything else. It was solved with an RMA that the card was replaced.
 
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Tinyvaldemar

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Final observation: I bought a Radeon 6900 XT and ran the test with the same poor performance. Basemark GPU gives great scores on all APIs for the two different cards as well as all other test suites except 3D Mark. I think this is purely related to Time Spy and not to the machine.
 
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Are you running the Time Spy 4K test or standard Time Spy test?

I'm getting a GPU score of 19859 on the standard Time Spy with a 3080 Ti. The 3090 should do better than that or close to it, as least. I'm tending to believe it is your Time Spy application, if you are running the standard versus 4K test.
 
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Tinyvaldemar

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tecmo34 said:
Are you running the Time Spy 4K test or standard Time Spy test?

I'm getting a GPU score of 19859 on the standard Time Spy with a 3080 Ti. The 3090 should do better than that or close to it, as least. I'm tending to believe it is your Time Spy application, if you are running the standard versus 4K test.
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