[SOLVED] 3rd Storage drive dying in the span of 11 months

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Darkbreeze

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If that many Samsung drives were consistently failing, there is no way it wouldn't be front and center top of the hour headline news on every online tech rag there is. There has to be more going on or some specific combination of hardware, specific controller, something, going on. Much like the recent problems with the RTX 4090 that seem to be due to user error from not being fully inserted. IDK, but if that were happening at greater than 1% failure rates, we'd have read it and not been able to not see it, on Tom's hardware, Techspot, TechPowerUP, Tweaktown, Hardware busters, GamersNexus, The FPS review, Anandtech, ExtremeTech and like 20 different Youtube channels not to mention fifty sub-Reddits as well.

Those drives have been out for almost two years, if there was a major problem I cannot believe Samsung wouldn't have released a new revision without the problem by now. But, I've been wrong before.
 
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If that many Samsung drives were consistently failing, there is no way it wouldn't be front and center top of the hour headline news on every online tech rag there is. There has to be more going on or some specific combination of hardware, specific controller, something, going on. Much like the recent problems with the RTX 4090 that seem to be due to user error from not being fully inserted. IDK, but if that were happening at greater than 1% failure rates, we'd have read it and not been able to not see it, on Tom's hardware, Techspot, TechPowerUP, Tweaktown, Hardware busters, GamersNexus, The FPS review, Anandtech, ExtremeTech and like 20 different Youtube channels not to mention fifty sub-Reddits as well.

Those drives have been out for almost two years, if there was a major problem I cannot believe Samsung wouldn't have released a new revision without the problem by now. But, I've been wrong before.
As an example, I reported, at HDD Guru, that WD's "5400 RPM class" HDDs were actually spinning at 7200 RPM almost 1 year before those other sites caught on.

Also, I reported that the widely misrepresented claim that WD's "IntelliPower" HDDs varied their RPM from 5400 RPM to 7200 RPM according to workload was nonsense long before these sites became aware.

Therefore, I am not surprised.

If you haven't already, read this:

Samsung 840 EVO - how to easily lose your data forever:

https://forum.acelab.eu.com/viewtopic.php?f=227&t=8735
 

slavi_asenov2002

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Some updates on my side:

I bought the Corsair RM850x and today I changed the bequiet with it.
I have sent back the SSD to the store which has send it to a service somewhere abroad. No info on that probably would take the full 2 weeks to "investigate" and give info on the problem. Hope this time they do not say "Could not find specific reason" or some sort of this.

There is something that I would like to note for the PSUs. You know there is a light on both PCIe ports on the Rog RX 5700XT indicating the power "stuff". The thing I noticed is that when I was turning off the bequiet PSU from the button on the back, it would take a whole minute or two for those lights to turn off. I would usually even press the power button and everything would turn on for a moment. Now when I turned off the Corsair PSU those lights turned off in 2/3 seconds and when I press the power button nothing would turn on which is cool. It was a small thing maybe even harmless but still i immediately spotted that.
 

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Well some update here, not like it needs. I got my drive replaced (again), changed the port of the ssd, changed the data cable, have switched my PSU to Corsair rm850x, have checked all electrical socket and the fuse for the room , and got some kind of electric shock, surge protections (I am not an electrician but it probably works like the power strips with this protections). The only thing is that I have not updated or changed anything regarding the MB. Thanks for the info that you gave me :)
 

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And nothing has changed? Or the problem was resolved?
Time will tell. As I said I got it replaced by a 2022-07 made in china drive, which is new. All past were made in Korea (second was 11.2021 or something like that). So far after 1.2TB written, 60 power-on hours the only SMART value that has changed is the Wear Leveling count to 99. So I think everything is fine for now. Hope this drive stays alive for at least until the end of warranty as I am tired of changing the drive.
 

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You JUST got the drive and already have 1.2TB written? That seems, extremely excessive, unless this is a backup drive that you needed to move 1.2TB to immediately.
Well it is kinda not wonder, it is my game drive. I play a lot of games and one of them requires additional content of around 200gb which was an archive. The drive currently has 600-700gb on it(or something like that)
The only thing that I do not like is the wear level count that has changed after only 1.2Tb written. Yeah you can say but it is only 1 level down. But 2 things: it has only had 1.2Tb(which would not change in the near future) and has 60 hours power on. Who knows maybe the Chinese made SSDs have their wear level down to ,99 fast but then it is barely moving.
Still time will tell, I did almost everything that I could. The only thing not done is new MB but I changed the SATA port for the SSD, so I hope the SSD lives long enough.

Edit: I saw the model is the same MZ-77E2T0B/EU, so I still have no trust in the current one. I checked the firmware in the website and I saw this message:
The 870 evo model will be manufactured with a revised v6 process starting november 2022.
And if that "revised process" is the fix of the problem, I am still without luck as mine is produced July 2022.
Hope I am not correct for this one. However I am gonna write directly to Samsung to check my luck there and if possible get some answers.
 
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Darkbreeze

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Oh, well if it's a game drive that contains all your game data, especially if it's for multiple games, then it's not that surprising at all these days. As to the rest, that is probably something only Samsung can answer for you.
 

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