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Since I could decide whether to make a Chaos Space Marine or Imperial
Guard army next, I decided to go with L&tD army. Combines the worst
aspects of both armies. :)

I haven't put anything together yet, but this list is based on stuff
I've been accumulating over the last couple years. The only thing I'll
actually have to buy is one of the IG/Chimera troop box sets.

For the Bill & Ted models, I'm thinking instead of actually mddeling the
sonic blaster, I'll pose the arms like they're holding something, but
leave the hands empty and say they're "air-sonic-blasters".

I can't quite decide between mutants or plague zombies for the
"Groupies". I also still haven't decided on the hvy/special weapon
setups in the roadies.

Future plans call for 2 units of "Groupies" & 2x 10 man "Roadies" & 1x 5
man "Roadies" w/agitator to mimic the IG platoon setup. Also a unit of
Daemonettes, some Furies,and a Basilisk.

This army list is something of a lash up, Army Builder 2 doesn't do the
L&tD HQ correctly, and AB 3 doesn't have L&td at all.

1000 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Wyld Stallyns

1 Rufus @ 126 Pts
General; Mark of Tzeentch; Sorceror; Bolt of Change; Bolt Pistol (x1);

Bedlam Staff; Daemonic Aura
1 Bedlam Staff @ [25] Pts
1 Daemonic Aura @ [15] Pts

"Wyld Stallyns"
3 Chosen of Slaanesh @ 222 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x2); Close combat weapon (x3); Mark of Slaanesh; Blast

Master (x1); Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen

Aspiring Champion (Joanna, Good Robot Bill & Ted)
1 Bill S. Preston, Esq. @ [37] Pts
Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
1 Ted "Theodore" Logan @ [37] Pts
Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
1 Joanna @ [62] Pts
Mark of Slaanesh; Sorceror; Doombolt; Bolt Pistol (x1); Close combat

weapon (x1); Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power (x1)
1 Mark of Slaanesh @ [5] Pts
Warp Scream
1 Doombolt @ [0] Pts
1 Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power @ [0] Pts

"Groupies"
15 Mutants (Troops) @ 144 Pts
Bloated; Firearms; Flamer (x2); Frag Grenades

"Roadies"
14 Traitors (Troops) @ 155 Pts
Compulsory Troop choice; Lasgun (x12); Heavy Bolter (x1); Meltagun

(x1);
Frag Grenades

1 Agitator @ [18] Pts
Lasgun; Frag Grenades

10 Traitors (Fast Attack) @ 190 Pts
Lasgun (x8); Missile Launcher (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1); Frag

Grenades

1 Chimera @ [80] Pts
Multi-Laser

1 Leman Russ Battle Tank (Heavy Support) @ 153 Pts
Battle Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter
Smoke Launcher [3]
Extra Armour [5]

Models in Army: 49


Total Army Cost: 990
 
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What, nobody has any suggestions or insults for my army list? You guys
can't all have me kill-filed. Maybe if I top-post the moderators
wannabes will notice it anyway.

Brion K. Lienhart wrote:
> Since I could decide whether to make a Chaos Space Marine or Imperial
> Guard army next, I decided to go with L&tD army. Combines the worst
> aspects of both armies. :)
>
> I haven't put anything together yet, but this list is based on stuff
> I've been accumulating over the last couple years. The only thing I'll
> actually have to buy is one of the IG/Chimera troop box sets.
>
> For the Bill & Ted models, I'm thinking instead of actually mddeling the
> sonic blaster, I'll pose the arms like they're holding something, but
> leave the hands empty and say they're "air-sonic-blasters".
>
> I can't quite decide between mutants or plague zombies for the
> "Groupies". I also still haven't decided on the hvy/special weapon
> setups in the roadies.
>
> Future plans call for 2 units of "Groupies" & 2x 10 man "Roadies" & 1x 5
> man "Roadies" w/agitator to mimic the IG platoon setup. Also a unit of
> Daemonettes, some Furies,and a Basilisk.
>
> This army list is something of a lash up, Army Builder 2 doesn't do the
> L&tD HQ correctly, and AB 3 doesn't have L&td at all.
>
> 1000 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Wyld Stallyns
>
> 1 Rufus @ 126 Pts
> General; Mark of Tzeentch; Sorceror; Bolt of Change; Bolt Pistol (x1);
>
> Bedlam Staff; Daemonic Aura
> 1 Bedlam Staff @ [25] Pts
> 1 Daemonic Aura @ [15] Pts
>
> "Wyld Stallyns"
> 3 Chosen of Slaanesh @ 222 Pts
> Bolt Pistol (x2); Close combat weapon (x3); Mark of Slaanesh; Blast
>
> Master (x1); Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen
>
> Aspiring Champion (Joanna, Good Robot Bill & Ted)
> 1 Bill S. Preston, Esq. @ [37] Pts
> Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
> 1 Ted "Theodore" Logan @ [37] Pts
> Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
> 1 Joanna @ [62] Pts
> Mark of Slaanesh; Sorceror; Doombolt; Bolt Pistol (x1); Close combat
>
> weapon (x1); Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power (x1)
> 1 Mark of Slaanesh @ [5] Pts
> Warp Scream
> 1 Doombolt @ [0] Pts
> 1 Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power @ [0] Pts
>
> "Groupies"
> 15 Mutants (Troops) @ 144 Pts
> Bloated; Firearms; Flamer (x2); Frag Grenades
>
> "Roadies"
> 14 Traitors (Troops) @ 155 Pts
> Compulsory Troop choice; Lasgun (x12); Heavy Bolter (x1); Meltagun
>
> (x1);
> Frag Grenades
>
> 1 Agitator @ [18] Pts
> Lasgun; Frag Grenades
>
> 10 Traitors (Fast Attack) @ 190 Pts
> Lasgun (x8); Missile Launcher (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1); Frag
>
> Grenades
>
> 1 Chimera @ [80] Pts
> Multi-Laser
>
> 1 Leman Russ Battle Tank (Heavy Support) @ 153 Pts
> Battle Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter
> Smoke Launcher [3]
> Extra Armour [5]
>
> Models in Army: 49
>
>
> Total Army Cost: 990
 
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Brion K. Lienhart wrote:
8<Totally Righteous Snip>8

> Wyld Stallyns

Dude! That theme is non-non-non-non-non-heinous!

> Models in Army: 49

Bogus . . .

A most triumphant L&D list has mucho models, Dude.

Uh . . . oh, yahh!

Your most awesome Noise Marines? Total Metal Heads:

Jimmy Martin, Stevie Vai, and Eddie VanHalen!

Wyld Stallyns has *got* to have Eddie VanHalen, Dude!


Playa

--

San Dimas High School History Teacher: "Theodore!"

Ted (daydreaming): "What?"

SDHSHT: "I said, 'Who was Joan of Arc?'"

Ted (standing): "Uh . . . Noah's wife?"
 
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In article <AYCdnSR_DN_dy7rfRVn-3A@comcast.com>, Brion K. Lienhart,
brionl@lienhart.name Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> What, nobody has any suggestions or insults for my army list? You guys
> can't all have me kill-filed.

Unfortunately, Sam Campbell - resident LaTD fanboy is currently
lost in the warp known as 'World of Warcraft'. Perhaps in a few years
when it spits out what's left of him, he'll be able to send out a reply
by banging his head on the keyboard. Unfortunately, while I've got the
makings of a Black Legion force, I simply have zero experience with or
against LaTD. Perhaps Qrab, Maka, or Hwang will drop a reply.

> Maybe if I top-post the moderators
> wannabes will notice it anyway.

Grrrr! Grrrr! Kill! Crush! Maim! Destroy!

Wait, where was I....


Myr :)

--
RE: Rhino Conversion...

I intended to put a smaller gun on it but never got around to
it. Ahh space marine ordinance envy will make you do funny things.

-- Panxerox


RGMW FAQ: http://www.rgmw.org

Or...

http://www.sheppard.demon.co.uk/rgmw_faq/rgmw_faq.htm
 
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Brion K. Lienhart wrote:
> > Since I could decide whether to make a Chaos Space Marine or Imperial
> > Guard army next, I decided to go with L&tD army. Combines the worst
> > aspects of both armies. :)

You got that right. 🙂

> > This army list is something of a lash up, Army Builder 2 doesn't do the
> > L&tD HQ correctly, and AB 3 doesn't have L&td at all.
> >
> > 1000 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Wyld Stallyns
> >
> > 1 Rufus @ 126 Pts
> > General; Mark of Tzeentch; Sorceror; Bolt of Change; Bolt Pistol (x1);
> > Bedlam Staff; Daemonic Aura
> > 1 Bedlam Staff @ [25] Pts
> > 1 Daemonic Aura @ [15] Pts
> >
> > "Wyld Stallyns"
> > 3 Chosen of Slaanesh @ 222 Pts
> > Bolt Pistol (x2); Close combat weapon (x3); Mark of Slaanesh; Blast
> > Master (x1); Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen
> > Aspiring Champion (Joanna, Good Robot Bill & Ted)
> > 1 Bill S. Preston, Esq. @ [37] Pts
> > Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
> > 1 Ted "Theodore" Logan @ [37] Pts
> > Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
> > 1 Joanna @ [62] Pts
> > Mark of Slaanesh; Sorceror; Doombolt; Bolt Pistol (x1); Close combat
> > weapon (x1); Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power (x1)
> > 1 Mark of Slaanesh @ [5] Pts
> > Warp Scream
> > 1 Doombolt @ [0] Pts
> > 1 Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power @ [0] Pts
> >
> > "Groupies"
> > 15 Mutants (Troops) @ 144 Pts
> > Bloated; Firearms; Flamer (x2); Frag Grenades
> >
> > "Roadies"
> > 14 Traitors (Troops) @ 155 Pts
> > Compulsory Troop choice; Lasgun (x12); Heavy Bolter (x1); Meltagun
> > (x1); Frag Grenades
> > 1 Agitator @ [18] Pts
> > Lasgun; Frag Grenades
> >
> > 10 Traitors (Fast Attack) @ 190 Pts
> > Lasgun (x8); Missile Launcher (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1); Frag
> > Grenades
> >
> > 1 Chimera @ [80] Pts
> > Multi-Laser
> >
> > 1 Leman Russ Battle Tank (Heavy Support) @ 153 Pts
> > Battle Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter
> > Smoke Launcher [3]
> > Extra Armour [5]
> >
> > Models in Army: 49
> > Total Army Cost: 990

First off, are you sure this list is legal? All LatD compulsory troop choices
must be maximum sized, and you only have one maxed out troops. You need 30
groupies to max out the other troop choice.

That said, I'm not sure you have enough numbers. The usual sin is not taking
enough anti-tank, but you have plenty of high strength weapons. The real
problem will be if you run up against some shooty army - those troops are cheap
and will die very fast. I see you at least had the sense to bloat your
groupies, but they still won't last that long. Once they're gone, your few good
units will end up eating the fire from the entire enemy army... I'd dump either
the Russ or the Chimera and pile in a bunch of meat shields.
--
- Ward.
wardcb at earthlink dot net

I went to a seafood buffet at the gymnasium last week ... and pulled a mussel.
 
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W. B. wrote:
> Brion K. Lienhart wrote:
>
>>>Since I could decide whether to make a Chaos Space Marine or Imperial
>>>Guard army next, I decided to go with L&tD army. Combines the worst
>>>aspects of both armies. :)


> You got that right. 🙂
> First off, are you sure this list is legal? All LatD compulsory troop choices
> must be maximum sized, and you only have one maxed out troops. You need 30
> groupies to max out the other troop choice.

Traitor troop choices that are mandatory (the first two troops) must be
max size (15). The mandatory troop choices are the Groupies and the 1st
roadies. The 2nd roadies in the Chimera are Fast Attack. That's the way
I'm reading it anyway.
 
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"Brion K. Lienhart" wrote ...
> W. B. wrote:
> > Brion K. Lienhart wrote:

> > First off, are you sure this list is legal? All LatD compulsory troop
choices
> > must be maximum sized, and you only have one maxed out troops. You need 30
> > groupies to max out the other troop choice.
>
> Traitor troop choices that are mandatory (the first two troops) must be
> max size (15). The mandatory troop choices are the Groupies and the 1st
> roadies. The 2nd roadies in the Chimera are Fast Attack. That's the way
> I'm reading it anyway.

My initial comment came from the unit sizes: Traitors are 5-15 per unit while
mutants are 15-30 per unit. But, I may have misread something. The exact
wording is: "Units of _Traitor_ troops taken as compulsory choices ... must be
maximum strength." I missed the word "traitor" first time round, which is why I
objected! Oops, my bad. As long as you have at least 15 mutants it should be
okay...
--
- Ward.
wardcb at earthlink dot net

I went to a seafood buffet at the gymnasium last week ... and pulled a mussel.
 
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"Brion K. Lienhart" <brionl@lienhart.name> wrote in message
news:do6dnVpoq9GHNb7fRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
> Since I could decide whether to make a Chaos Space Marine or Imperial
> Guard army next, I decided to go with L&tD army. Combines the worst
> aspects of both armies. :)
>
> I haven't put anything together yet, but this list is based on stuff I've
> been accumulating over the last couple years. The only thing I'll actually
> have to buy is one of the IG/Chimera troop box sets.
>
> For the Bill & Ted models, I'm thinking instead of actually mddeling the
> sonic blaster, I'll pose the arms like they're holding something, but
> leave the hands empty and say they're "air-sonic-blasters".
>
> I can't quite decide between mutants or plague zombies for the "Groupies".
> I also still haven't decided on the hvy/special weapon setups in the
> roadies.
>
> Future plans call for 2 units of "Groupies" & 2x 10 man "Roadies" & 1x 5
> man "Roadies" w/agitator to mimic the IG platoon setup. Also a unit of
> Daemonettes, some Furies,and a Basilisk.
>
> This army list is something of a lash up, Army Builder 2 doesn't do the
> L&tD HQ correctly, and AB 3 doesn't have L&td at all.
>
It's a real top heavy list, where you're just taking the goodies form Kaos
Spayce Marines and not many mutants.


> 1000 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Wyld Stallyns
>
> 1 Rufus @ 126 Pts
> General; Mark of Tzeentch; Sorceror; Bolt of Change; Bolt Pistol (x1);
>
> Bedlam Staff; Daemonic Aura
> 1 Bedlam Staff @ [25] Pts
> 1 Daemonic Aura @ [15] Pts
>
I'm guessing he's an arch heretic in which case he will get his arse handed
to him in combat, or taken out by heavy fire. I never take arch heretics,
either a daemonprince/chaos lord and/or the normal Aspiring champions.

>
> "Wyld Stallyns"
> 3 Chosen of Slaanesh @ 222 Pts
> Bolt Pistol (x2); Close combat weapon (x3); Mark of Slaanesh; Blast
>
> Master (x1); Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen
>
> Aspiring Champion (Joanna, Good Robot Bill & Ted)
> 1 Bill S. Preston, Esq. @ [37] Pts
> Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
> 1 Ted "Theodore" Logan @ [37] Pts
> Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
> 1 Joanna @ [62] Pts
> Mark of Slaanesh; Sorceror; Doombolt; Bolt Pistol (x1); Close combat
>
> weapon (x1); Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power (x1)
> 1 Mark of Slaanesh @ [5] Pts
> Warp Scream
> 1 Doombolt @ [0] Pts
> 1 Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power @ [0] Pts
>
Very top heavy for 1000 points. I think you need to rethink what you're
going to be actually doing with the army.

> "Groupies"
> 15 Mutants (Troops) @ 144 Pts
> Bloated; Firearms; Flamer (x2); Frag Grenades
>
boss mutant w/ powerfist. You need more mutants and don't worry about
bloated, a 4+ save of 15 guys does not compare to a 5+ save but of 22 guys.

> "Roadies"
> 14 Traitors (Troops) @ 155 Pts
> Compulsory Troop choice; Lasgun (x12); Heavy Bolter (x1); Meltagun
>
Go with mutants instead. I only take traitors for weapons teams or tanks and
if I'm going only full traitor army and it's themed that way.

> (x1);
> Frag Grenades
>
> 1 Agitator @ [18] Pts
> Lasgun; Frag Grenades
>
Powerfist

> 10 Traitors (Fast Attack) @ 190 Pts
> Lasgun (x8); Missile Launcher (x1); Grenade Launcher (x1); Frag
>
> Grenades
>
> 1 Chimera @ [80] Pts
> Multi-Laser
>
I wouldn't bother with this too much.

> 1 Leman Russ Battle Tank (Heavy Support) @ 153 Pts
> Battle Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter
> Smoke Launcher [3]
> Extra Armour [5]
>
cool.

> Models in Army: 49
>
>
> Total Army Cost: 990
 
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manickZe wrote:
> "Brion K. Lienhart" <brionl@lienhart.name> wrote in message
> news:do6dnVpoq9GHNb7fRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
>>1000 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - Wyld Stallyns
>>
>>1 Rufus @ 126 Pts
>> General; Mark of Tzeentch; Sorceror; Bolt of Change; Bolt Pistol (x1);
>>
>>Bedlam Staff; Daemonic Aura
>> 1 Bedlam Staff @ [25] Pts
>> 1 Daemonic Aura @ [15] Pts
>>
>
> I'm guessing he's an arch heretic in which case he will get his arse handed
> to him in combat, or taken out by heavy fire. I never take arch heretics,
> either a daemonprince/chaos lord and/or the normal Aspiring champions.
>
>
>>"Wyld Stallyns"
>>3 Chosen of Slaanesh @ 222 Pts
>> Bolt Pistol (x2); Close combat weapon (x3); Mark of Slaanesh; Blast
>>
>>Master (x1); Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen Aspiring Champion; Chosen
>>
>>Aspiring Champion (Joanna, Good Robot Bill & Ted)
>> 1 Bill S. Preston, Esq. @ [37] Pts
>> Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
>> 1 Ted "Theodore" Logan @ [37] Pts
>> Mark of Slaanesh; Sonic Blaster
>> 1 Joanna @ [62] Pts
>> Mark of Slaanesh; Sorceror; Doombolt; Bolt Pistol (x1); Close combat
>>
>>weapon (x1); Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power (x1)
>> 1 Mark of Slaanesh @ [5] Pts
>> Warp Scream
>> 1 Doombolt @ [0] Pts
>> 1 Slaanesh Minor Psychic Power @ [0] Pts
>>
>
> Very top heavy for 1000 points. I think you need to rethink what you're
> going to be actually doing with the army.

Yeah, it is kind of top heavy. But like I said most further expansion
will be mutants and/or traitors. I guess I could make Rufus an aspiring
champion & through in some more mutants. Any pref between mutants and
plague zombies?
 
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